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To: Gary Boldwater
Well if it did slow down (perhaps even go in reverse) and then sped up, what does this say about the cosmological red shift assumption?

The Red Shift is not an assumption.

What you are discribing has nothing to do with the "speed" of light, it has to do with its frequency, or wave-length, as seen by a distant observer. When a distant object is moving towards the observer at a significant percentage of C its wavelength is compressed, or shortened, appearing blue to the observer. As a distant object moves away from the observer its wavelength is expanded, or lenghtened, appearing red.

This shifting towards red or blue would happen regardless of the measured speed of C. Since E=MC2 works well enough (to as many decimal points as we can measure) that Hiroshima was vaporized, I respecfully suggest that Einstein was closer to the correct answer than any fanciful idea that C is not a constant in a vacuum.

Remember Occam's Razor: A rule in science and philosophy stating that entities should not be multiplied needlessly. This rule is interpreted to mean that the simplest of two or more competing theories is preferable and that an explanation for unknown phenomena should first be attempted in terms of what is already known.

18 posted on 05/27/2003 5:35:15 PM PDT by The Shootist
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To: The Shootist
the cosmological red shift assumption?
The Red Shift is not an assumption.

The cosmological red shift assumption is indeed in question. The assumption is that the more distant the light source the faster it is receding from us. Could something else than mere velocity cause the observed shift in spectra? Also, this article throws a monkey wrench into the expansion of the universe model since it means the orderly distance measurements and therefore the timeline would be thrown off.

22 posted on 05/27/2003 5:41:56 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: The Shootist
The "cosmological red shift" is a hypothesis. Do an internet search on that exact term and you'll find at least 1/2 dozen different explanations for the cause of it.

Do another search on the "fine structure" and "the speed of light". By looking at the emission spectra of ancient atoms there's evidence that light has slowed over time.

As far as c not being constant in a vacuum, or all observers must measure c the same regardless of inertial reference frame. Think of this experiment. You have a railroad car 200 meters long. In the exact center is an isotropic light source. At each end of the car are two observers with clocks, equidistant from the center. The light source emits a pulse, the clocks are synchronized. The rail car accelerates to 1/2 the speed of light along the axis of the source and observers, which undergo equal Lorentz contractions and the like. A light pulse is emitted when the car is moving inertially at 1/2 the speed of light. Do the observers at the ends see the light pulse arriving at the same time?

If the answer is yes then how come the east to west speed of light on the surface of the earth is not the same as the west to east? If your answer is no, then are the two observers in the same reference frame measuring different speeds of light?

56 posted on 05/27/2003 9:37:16 PM PDT by Gary Boldwater
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