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Do We Live In A "Stop And Go" Universe?
spaceref.com ^ | 27 May 03 | staff

Posted on 05/27/2003 4:15:08 PM PDT by RightWhale

Do We Live In A "Stop And Go" Universe?

Anyone who drives is familiar with the frustration of being caught in "stop and go" traffic, a phenomenon found in urban areas all over the world. Astronomers have found that stop-and-go traffic is even more widespread than that, affecting galaxies throughout the universe. Today at the 202nd meeting of the American Astronomical Society, Robert Kirshner (Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics), on behalf of the international High-z Supernova Search Team led by Brian Schmidt (Mount Stromlo Observatory), presented evidence that the expanding universe slowed for billions of years before galaxies began accelerating, like cars that get past a bottleneck.

"Right now, the universe is speeding up, with galaxies zooming away from each other like Indy 500 racers hitting the gas when the green flag drops and the pace car gets out of their way. But we suspect that it wasn't always this way," said Kirshner.

John Tonry (University of Hawaii), principal investigator of the team for the new and collected previous observations reported on today, agreed. "We've been hoping to see this effect of slowing in the distant past. We saw evidence 5 years ago that the expansion of the universe currently is accelerating, but we didn't know for sure what it was doing 7 billion years ago. We are now seeing hints that, way back then, the universe was slowing down."

Astronomers discovered seven decades ago that the universe is expanding, with galaxies rushing away from each other in all directions. Physics suggested that the expansion, which began with the Big Bang, should slow down over time due to the combined gravitational pull from all matter in the cosmos.

Two groups-the High-z Supernova Search Team and the Supernova Cosmology Project-sought to study the universe's expansion by observing distant exploding stars called Type Ia supernovae. At their peak, these explosions are brighter than a billion stars like the Sun, enabling astronomers to see and study them across billions of light-years of space.

Five years ago, both teams announced that their studies of Type Ia supernovae showed the expansion of the universe is speeding up. The accelerating expansion pointed to the existence of an unexplained "dark energy" that permeates all of space.

Those initial findings were based on a few dozen supernovae. Now, the High-z Supernova Search Team has expanded that work to 79 distant and 140 nearby supernovae, some newly observed and some previously studied by observers worldwide. The additional data show with higher precision that the discovery of five years ago was correct and the universe currently is accelerating.

More importantly, Kirshner reported that Tonry and the High-z Supernova Search Team snagged four supernovae so distant that their light may well have left at a time when the universe was still slowing down, before dark energy began to dominate the gravitational pull of matter.

Future plans include doubling the number of well-observed Type Ia supernovae through an ambitious program at the National Science Foundation's Cerro-Tololo Inter-American Observatory. The ESSENCE project (standing for "Equation of State: SupErNovae trace Cosmic Expansion") seeks to make an accurate measurement of the cosmic parameter w, which provides clues about the nature of the dark energy. The parameter w is defined as p/rho, the ratio of the dark energy's pressure to its energy density.

"A better measurement of w will help answer the question: Is the dark energy Einstein's cosmological constant, or is it something else such as the so-called 'quintessence'?" said Chris Stubbs (University of Washington), one of the leaders of the ESSENCE project. "This is an important question considering that about 70 percent of the energy in the universe is dark energy, while only 30 percent is due to matter. Whatever dark energy is, it's the dominant stuff of the cosmos. We can't lose: No matter what we find, this will be interesting."

Currently, the value of w is known only to within a factor of 2. The ESSENCE project will do 10 times better, reducing the level of uncertainty to plus or minus 10 percent.

Adam Riess (Space Telescope Science Institute), as principal investigator for the Higher-z Supernova Search Team, is cooperating with the Great Observatories Origins Deep Survey (GOODS) to look for higher-redshift supernovae using the Hubble Space Telescope's Advanced Camera for Surveys (ACS). That program uses the ACS to find Type Ia supernovae at very large redshifts (and hence large distances), in order to look back even farther in time. The Higher-z project will have the best chance to determine whether the universe really was slowing down before cosmic acceleration kicked in.


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As soon as we figure out what is doing this, we should figure out a way to stop it, and do a few other things so the universe doesn't burn out just as we are getting started.
1 posted on 05/27/2003 4:15:08 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
"Right now, the universe is speeding up...

I thought I felt something the other day.

2 posted on 05/27/2003 4:18:41 PM PDT by randog (It's always darkest before the dawn--a good time to steal the neighbor's newspaper.)
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To: randog
Somewhere around the age of 30 this phenomenon is noticed by many.
3 posted on 05/27/2003 4:19:37 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: RightWhale
"We've been hoping to see this effect of slowing in the distant past.

That's weird, I just think this is an odd attitude for a scientist to have, 'hoping' to see one set of stats or another. Perhaps there are good reasons for this 'hoping' and the article just doesn't explain them.

4 posted on 05/27/2003 4:23:01 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: RightWhale
Astronomers discovered seven decades ago that the universe is expanding, with galaxies rushing away from each other in all directions. Physics suggested that the expansion, which began with the Big Bang, should slow down over time due to the combined gravitational pull from all matter in the cosmos.

I've read recently that the expansion will not collapse on itself -- lasting forever.

It's a "Go" Universe!

5 posted on 05/27/2003 4:24:55 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Dr. Frank
There is a paper and a nifty image with the source article.
6 posted on 05/27/2003 4:28:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: RightWhale
Do We Live In A "Stop And Go" Universe?

Yes we do. Even our computers work on a super expanded explanation of "On or Off" to make computations and calculations in binary. Or at least that's how we have the ability to control computations, even if they are completed at the micron level.

7 posted on 05/27/2003 4:36:59 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: RightWhale; aruanan
*PINK MATTER ALERT*

Well if it did slow down (perhaps even go in reverse) and then sped up, what does this say about the cosmological red shift assumption?
Wouldn't it be simpler to explain this all as the universe not really expanding (though it is moving about), but rather that the speed of light may have changed with time and location. It's a big assumption that the intrinsic impedance of space is the same all over for all time.
The cosmic background radiation may just be light that is absorbed by the matter (and there's lots of it) between the heavenly bodies and reradiated as heat. It may not be the left over light from the big bang doppler shifted.
8 posted on 05/27/2003 4:43:27 PM PDT by Gary Boldwater
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To: Physicist; ThinkPlease; RadioAstronomer; PatrickHenry
dark energy/accelerating expansion ping
9 posted on 05/27/2003 4:47:40 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; *crevo_list; Scully; Piltdown_Woman; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ...
Cosmology ping.

[This ping list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]

10 posted on 05/27/2003 4:55:25 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Idiots are on "virtual ignore.")
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To: RightWhale
I for one would be interested in knowing what makes a universe stop.
Have the astronomers interviewed the Supremes lately?
11 posted on 05/27/2003 5:17:53 PM PDT by Saturnalia (My name is Matt Foley and I live in a VAN down by the RIVER.)
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To: Saturnalia
We will find out what is causing this expansion and stop it. We will also find out what makes the stars burn out so quickly. We will make the universe last a million times longer than it would if left to nature, and then we will extend that a million times more.

-J D Bernal

12 posted on 05/27/2003 5:21:21 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: RightWhale
Ah! It must be God expanding hell since the fall of man and even more so rapidly after the 60's.
13 posted on 05/27/2003 5:25:05 PM PDT by kuma
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To: RightWhale
...a nifty image with the source article.

Nifty, yes. But I have a question. If this image is an accurate representation of our Universe, shouldn't it be possible to aim a telescope at vast expanses of sky that have nothing? Literally away from the apparent source of the Big Bang? And what forces made this Big Bang so...directional?


14 posted on 05/27/2003 5:26:08 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The diagram is dimensional, the time axis is horizontal, the vertical kind of spatial, all spatial dimensions in one. As far as the Big Bang being in a particular direction, it is actually in all directions. Any direction you look, if you see deeply enough, you will see the Big Bang. It's like we are in the middle, looking through the other end of the telescope.
15 posted on 05/27/2003 5:30:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: RightWhale
so the universe doesn't burn out just as we are getting started.

"The universe is going to collapse in a few billion years."
"Oh, my gawd!  It isn't fair.  What are we going to do?"
"What are you talking about?  A billion years is a long time."
"A billion?  Oh, man, I thought you said a million!"
16 posted on 05/27/2003 5:32:36 PM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: RightWhale
Well, what do you know! We don't know.

That means lots of territory to have fun in.

17 posted on 05/27/2003 5:33:38 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Gary Boldwater
Well if it did slow down (perhaps even go in reverse) and then sped up, what does this say about the cosmological red shift assumption?

The Red Shift is not an assumption.

What you are discribing has nothing to do with the "speed" of light, it has to do with its frequency, or wave-length, as seen by a distant observer. When a distant object is moving towards the observer at a significant percentage of C its wavelength is compressed, or shortened, appearing blue to the observer. As a distant object moves away from the observer its wavelength is expanded, or lenghtened, appearing red.

This shifting towards red or blue would happen regardless of the measured speed of C. Since E=MC2 works well enough (to as many decimal points as we can measure) that Hiroshima was vaporized, I respecfully suggest that Einstein was closer to the correct answer than any fanciful idea that C is not a constant in a vacuum.

Remember Occam's Razor: A rule in science and philosophy stating that entities should not be multiplied needlessly. This rule is interpreted to mean that the simplest of two or more competing theories is preferable and that an explanation for unknown phenomena should first be attempted in terms of what is already known.

18 posted on 05/27/2003 5:35:15 PM PDT by The Shootist
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To: RightWhale
They also have a nice animation. Ragged start to the universe, and at the end the universe just stops and fades out. Must be a French director.

Big Bang:the movie

19 posted on 05/27/2003 5:39:11 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: RightWhale
This is exactly the point I've been trying to make for a long time....
20 posted on 05/27/2003 5:39:13 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (We're through being cool (you can say that again, Dad))
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