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Study: Gun Owners More Likely to Be Killed by Guns
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| May 27, 2003
| ERIC NAGOURNEY
Posted on 05/27/2003 1:43:27 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
A University of California at Los Angeles study shows that gun owners are nearly twice as likely to be killed by guns than those who do not keep firearms at home, the New York Times reported May 27.
The study further found that people with guns at home are 16 times more likely to commit suicide using guns.
More than half of victims knew their assailants, and 15 percent of killings arose from family arguments.
The lethality of guns played a role in the carnage, experts said. "People who are shot are substantially more likely to die than people injured with non-gun weapons," said study author Dr. Douglas J. Wiebe, who is now with the University of Pennsylvania.
For the research, Wiebe analyzed the deaths of 1,720 homicide victims and 1,959 suicide victims and a sampling of American adults.
The study is published in the June 2003 edition of the Annals of Emergency Medicine.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guns; secondamendment
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To: D. Brian Carter
Study: People Who Eat More Likely to Choke to Death than People Who Don't
In other news, a new study shows people who don't eat are more likely to starve to death than people who eat.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; *bang_list
NY SLIMES. Figures.
(Haven't looked yet). Wonder who is behind the study. A. Kellermann? Steven Teret? Daniel Webster? Phil Cook? (all notable Antis). Who funded it? Joyce Foundation? Goldman Fund? MacArthur Foundation? Bell Campaign? Trauma Foundation? Soros?
Looked:
Douglas J. Wiebe, PhD - Don't know him offhand.
From the Violence Prevention Research Group, University of California-Los Angeles School of Public Health, Los Angeles, CA.
Look up 'guns' and public health'. That's agenda "science" if there ever was some.
The California Wellness Foundation (TCWF).
They are behind "Pacific Center for Violence Prevention", a global gun grab group. Good website for knowing the enemy.
Firearm Injury Center at Penn (FICAP),
If it's the same FIC that I know of, that came from the Joyce Foundation.
I noticed a lot of Kellermann, Hemenway(another Kellerman type), although some Kleck as well.
I'll take a closer look at this, but I certainly don't trust it.
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posted on
05/27/2003 1:53:33 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("It's the same ole story, same ole song and dance, my friend")
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
FLASH:
People who own boats are more likely to die in water than those who do not own boats.
Sheesh! May the Lord save us from our own stupidity.
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posted on
05/27/2003 1:53:56 PM PDT
by
Movemout
To: Archie Bunker on steroids
The study further found that people with guns at home are 16 times more likely to commit suicide using guns. "Would it make you feel better if they was pushed out a window?"
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I imagine that drug dealers who own guns are probably a hundred times likelier to get shot than deer hunters who own guns.
If you analyze deaths by violence, you are going to get a high proportion of criminals among the numbers.
How many of these "gun owners," for instance, were shot by the police during the commission of a crime?
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05/27/2003 1:54:42 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
Comment #26 Removed by Moderator
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I'd still rather have my fate in my hands rather than that of a criminal.
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posted on
05/27/2003 1:55:01 PM PDT
by
South40
To: Spiff
It may be that people who feel the necessity to own guns are inherently more at risk of violence (do to location, profession etc) than those who do not feel they need to own a gun. It may also be that this same group would be the victims of guns MORE OFTEN if they didn't own guns.
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posted on
05/27/2003 1:57:13 PM PDT
by
yeetch!
To: Dan from Michigan
The source has some links, and I haven't followed them all.
Isn't it funny how people who are oh-so-concerned about safety conveniently forget about car, bicycle, and RV accidents which kill a LOT more people?
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"Study: Gun Owners More Likely to Be Killed by Guns"Study: Car Owners More Likely to Be Killed By Cars.
Idiots.
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posted on
05/27/2003 1:58:20 PM PDT
by
rudypoot
To: South40
When some crackhead is kicking in your back door at 2 AM, I'm sure a cop on the phone is a great comfort.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I would think that sewerside by people with a gun who don't have access to a gun is pure hell.
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posted on
05/27/2003 1:59:53 PM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(When you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.)
To: xbar
Try running at a cop with a butcher knife in your hand yelling, "Die, Pig", and get back to me.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The study further found that people with guns at home are 16 times more likely to commit suicide using guns. People with ovens are far more likely to use an oven to commit suicide than those who do not own one.
Similarly, people with blunt objects in their home are far more likely to be bludgeoned than those who own only nerf-objects.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Well, I suppose if he was (sic) pushed out of a window, it wouldn't exactly be suicide. Now, if he jumped, that would be a different ball of wax--LOL! (Just teasing you a bit).
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posted on
05/27/2003 2:05:09 PM PDT
by
basil
To: Dan from Michigan
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posted on
05/27/2003 2:05:11 PM PDT
by
Roscoe
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
A University of California at Los Angeles study shows that gun owners are nearly twice as likely to be killed by guns than those who do not keep firearms at home, the New York Times reported May 27. I just heard a huge flush of the credibility of this article when these two names were mentioned in the first sentence.
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posted on
05/27/2003 2:05:41 PM PDT
by
kstewskis
("Aim small, miss small...."' Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
Comment #38 Removed by Moderator
To: xbar
"I don't think you can commit suicide with a gun if you don't have a gun."Its rare but it has been known to occur...seems that I remember a number of them occuring between 92 and 2000, primarily in Arkansas and DC....
To: Britton J Wingfield
Yep. And gun control would help how? In Canada, the suicide rate stayed exactly the same after the nazi crackdown on gun ownership. People were jumping off tall buildings and bridges instead of shooting themselves, that's all. The news media was all baffled and amazed by this. It's a real bona fide mystery, eh?
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