[eastsider]

With any luck, the text of Cardinal Arinze's speech will be delivered today, in which case I will post it first thing tomorrow morning.

[Polycarp]

Another angle on Arinze's comments and the backlash to traditional orthodox Catholic opinion.

Related thread: When Tolerance Becomes Intolerance: Religion Increasingly Pilloried in the Public Square

[epluribus_2]

sounds like just what the RCC needs after JPII to counter those who have hijacked their true mission.

[netmilsmom]

Oh I just want this man to be pope sooooo bad!
I'm still having nightmares about the Gay Cleveland website.

[onyx]

BTTT

[RonF]

Do you really think that a 70-year old Cardinal would be selected as Pope?

[kidd]

I was part of a small audience of about 60 that Cardinal Arinze spoke to in 1996 during a pilgimage to Rome. He is fluent in English, is articulate, is filled with the Holy Spirit and is very conservative. As a rather orthodox Catholic, I would welcome him as Pope with open arms.

His conservative papacy would be the catalyst that would initiate the liberal "American Catholic" church. However, I believe that this will happen anyway and the Roman Catholic church needs someone who will not be influenced by modern society.

[RonF]

Astarita said the comments may have been more palatable had they been made in a different setting, such as an invited lecture.

I thought a commencement address was an invited lecture. Maybe he did this because he thought the kids needed to hear what he had to say.

[LurkingSince'98]

Dear Polycarp,

Do you have a ping list?

If so I'd like to be on it.

Regards,
Lurking'

PS: Our parish priest had a very good homily regarding the ridicule heaped on Cardinal Arinze by the trash at Georgetown. I love small town Catholics!

[DPB101]

Good post. When Ted Kennedy opened America to massive immigration from the third world in 1965, this is something he did not consider. The Christian faith of the developing world is more traditional, more conservative than the Christian faith of the west. This is true of Protestants and Catholics alike.

Liberals thought, in their parochial way, that the Christian faith is a western artifact. Bring in non-westerners and it would disappear and allow secular humanism/marxism to prevail.

But Christ is universal. African Christianity is the religion of Christ in Africa, not today an alien faith taught by European missionaries. In fact, the trend is the opposite, The third world is sending missionaries to the west to revitalize the faith.

America is fortunate that we are being reminded of our roots The same is not true in much of Europe. An alien religion, Islam, is proseltizing Europe.

[kitkat]

I, too, would appreciate it if you have a ping list.

[Man_of_Reason]

This is a very good argument for increased immigration from strong Catholic countries to the US. I would urge others to write their political representatives and request raising the immigration limits on Catholic countries with incentives to settle in the problem areas of the US. A rising tide raises all ships.

[Gaelic]

The Society of Jesus doesn't answer to the Pope like other orders do.The head of the order is almost a pope himself and he alone confers with the pope. I don't believe that St Ignatius Loyola would approve of his society today.

[GluteusMax]

The clash between people who desire to adhere to what God says and those who swallow the original lie told to Eve in the garden happens every generation.

"You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." Genesis 3:4-5 NIV

Or if you prefer King James English:

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The affluent West believes that it can ignore the commands of God and "be like God." The struggle apparent here in Catholicism is not unique. The Methodists, Baptists and may others are fighting the same divisive forces intent on imposing the will of people who want to be their own "god" over those who are trying to listen to the will of the genuine God. The Baptists recently fought to regain control of their universities from the liberals who disregarded the orthodox teachings. (I understand the conservatives won. Perhaps a Baptist can confirm?) This is a model for success. Either you adhere to recognized doctrine or get out. When the rebels leave they rarely remain cohesive anyway, too much seeking after their own selfish desires to sacrifice I suppose.

Cardinal Francis Arinze should be applauded, he's exactly right. Hopefully leaders like him will have the courage to speak the truth without compromise. Appeasing and compromising only weakens the Church. Whenever the truth is proclaimed without shame She grows stronger.

[NYer]

Alright ...... an African freeper!! Someone spread the word to Austin Ruse President Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute, of our existence.

[Salvation]

Stand up and be counted!

[Sergio]

save for later