Alert to Developing World Catholics: chasm between orthodox believers and radicals in western power

C-FAM ^ | Tuesday, May 27, 2003 | Austin Ruse

[Polycarp]

Do you have a ping list?

If so I'd like to be on it.

OK, you're both added.

[Polycarp]

Yes, quite often an older Pope is elected on the heels of a Pope such as JPII, whose pontificate has lasted so long precisely because he was young. If the Cardinals feel its another time of impending transition, they may elect an older rather than younger Pope.

But everything is purely conjecture when it comes to predicting such things.

[Man_of_Reason]

This is a very good argument for increased immigration from strong Catholic countries to the US. I would urge others to write their political representatives and request raising the immigration limits on Catholic countries with incentives to settle in the problem areas of the US. A rising tide raises all ships.

[saradippity]

I would say for an African,Catholic Cardinal with English not his primary language,speaking to an American about American politicians,he made a judicious decision.Sometimes discretion is truly the better part of valor.I think your case might have been one of those cases.

I also liked his remark several days ago that the days of the "do it yourself masses" were coming to an end.

Cardinal Arrinze made a trip to a highly infested,infected diocese out west and within a few months a "coadjutor" bishop was sent in to "transition" the diocese. I look at Carcinal Arrinze and say "long live Cardinal Arrinze and God keep him close".

[Gaelic]

The Society of Jesus doesn't answer to the Pope like other orders do.The head of the order is almost a pope himself and he alone confers with the pope. I don't believe that St Ignatius Loyola would approve of his society today.

[GluteusMax]

The clash between people who desire to adhere to what God says and those who swallow the original lie told to Eve in the garden happens every generation.

"You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." Genesis 3:4-5 NIV

Or if you prefer King James English:

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The affluent West believes that it can ignore the commands of God and "be like God." The struggle apparent here in Catholicism is not unique. The Methodists, Baptists and may others are fighting the same divisive forces intent on imposing the will of people who want to be their own "god" over those who are trying to listen to the will of the genuine God. The Baptists recently fought to regain control of their universities from the liberals who disregarded the orthodox teachings. (I understand the conservatives won. Perhaps a Baptist can confirm?) This is a model for success. Either you adhere to recognized doctrine or get out. When the rebels leave they rarely remain cohesive anyway, too much seeking after their own selfish desires to sacrifice I suppose.

Cardinal Francis Arinze should be applauded, he's exactly right. Hopefully leaders like him will have the courage to speak the truth without compromise. Appeasing and compromising only weakens the Church. Whenever the truth is proclaimed without shame She grows stronger.

[NYer]

Alright ...... an African freeper!! Someone spread the word to Austin Ruse President Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute, of our existence.

[victim soul]

please add my name when you post

[victim soul]

I think it is very likely because many may regret they elected a young pope John Paul II and don't want to have another long lived papal reign.

However, in the end the Holy Spirit will triumph.

[narses]

"Do you really think that a 70-year old Cardinal would be selected as Pope?"

Oh yeah. If a non-Italian is chosen, he is likely to be an older prelate, so as to "limit" his power. The Church is a huge, cumbersome institution, change comes slowly. My bet is on an Italian, but Card. Arinze is making great points with the "conservatives" in the College. (Labels inside the College of Cardinals are about useless, but I use "conservative" and "orthodox" as interchangeable. Some, like the odius Card. Kasper are AT BEST heretics, others like Card. Arinze are quite orthodox, but the office makes the man, so to speak. Even Card. Kasper (Heaven forbid his election!) would likely be "orthodox" in many ways as Pope. Ugh, what a thought though.)

[miele man]

Likewise, I would like to be added to your ping list.
Thank you.

[Flora McDonald]

I, too, received the Catholic Virginian today. It was all wet! Both literally & figuratively. And how about those typos? LOL

I'm really irritated that the paper is so wet, though. Now there's nothing to line the cat's litter box with.

[broadsword]

... in the end the Holy Spirit will triumph.

Very true. Despite how hard it is to see our beautiful faith trampled on by those who should be defending it we must keep this in mind at all times.

[Salvation]

Stand up and be counted!

[DPB101]

In the last century, however, there has been a Christian explosion Africa has never seen. Over 370 million African Christians now. The real Christian/Islam conflict will be (is already) in the developing world. Many of the Christians in the Philippines and Indonesia are overseas Chinese. Someday, China is going to tell the Muslims who are constantly attacking them to stop.

[Polycarp]

Done!

[Kenny Bunk]

Do you really think that a 70-year old Cardinal would be selected as Pope?

Sure. In troubled times, the RCs very often select an older man, precisely because of his age and putative at least, shorter reign.

[Kenny Bunk]

The Christian faith of the developing world is more traditional, more conservative than the Christian faith of the west. This is true of Protestants and Catholics alike.

Yes and no. Cardinal Arinze may be a conservative, but other African Bishops of the RC and Anglican persuasions are way out there in animist, polygamous, socialist radical land. Also, Third World Christianity often tends to blend Christian tenets with native religions.

Your left-wingers love this. So colorful! And it proves for them that all religions are the same and equal.

[american colleen]

Bump!

God Bless Cardinal Arinze!