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To: OWK
-- Nope, its just sad that your fixed view of libertarianism can't seem to cope with the realities of our constitutions principles.

The reality is that your constitutional "principles"

Mine? Are you so far gone you deny its principles?

have been subverted into the quagmire you see before you,

I don't deny they're being subverted, tar baby.

and precisely because the absolute and inalienable nature of rights has been disregarded in favor of majority assertions of "common property".

Hype. Only kings & madmen have ever claimed 'absolute rights' to own everything.
We the people 'own' the USA's common property. ---
'Common' property exists

Da Kommrade

'Ya bol' mine fanatical anarchist..

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Eminent domain is a necessary evil in a finite world.

In other words, it's OK to steal if the majority says so.

Nope, its silly to stick your head in the sand about unique facts of geography, like the Golden Gate.
We the people own it, and delegate to others its administration, so that everyone can peacefully use it..
Learn to live with them.

I will not learn to live peacefully with people who presume the moral authority to steal.

No one 'stole' the golden gate from you.. Get a grip on reality.

269 posted on 05/28/2003 10:06:28 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.,)
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To: tpaine
We the people own it,

Which part is mine, I want to sell it.

272 posted on 05/28/2003 10:14:26 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: tpaine
We the people own it, and delegate to others its administration, so that everyone can peacefully use it..

The problem with this communal approach, is that there is no restraint to that which "the people" (otherwise known as the majority) can "own", by simply laying claim to it by "eminent domain" using the vote process.

Ask any of the countless victims of property condemnation and subsequent theft.

The only restraint against such theft, is individual rights.

Once you've dismissed the notion (as you've clearly done)... you are at the utter mercy of your countrymen. (who clearly could give a crap less about your rights, versus their wants).

You have precisely the nation you've asked for.

Congratulations.

273 posted on 05/28/2003 10:19:44 AM PDT by OWK
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