Yes.
Who is skunk, aka tony
Ahh, you are playing coy.
Recognize him?
Posted on 05/26/2003 9:17:56 PM PDT by Nachum
As supporters of Jonathan Pollard prepare for a prayer rally on his behalf at the Western Wall on June 4, it appears that one of the most important questions surrounding his case has been answered. Former federal prosecutor John Loftus, in an article in the June issue of Moment Magazine, writes the following:
"There is a good reason why neither Congress nor the American Jewish leadership supports the release of Jonathan Pollard from prison: They all were told a lie - a humongous Washington whopper of a lie. The lie was [that] Pollard had supposedly given Israel a list of every American spy inside the Soviet Union... Soviet agents in Israel, posing as Israeli intelligence agents, passed the information to Moscow, which then wiped out American human assets in the Soviet Union...
"A week after [Pollard was sentenced to life in prison], the Washington Times reported that the United States had identified Shabtai Kalmanovich as the Soviet spy in Israel who supposedly worked for the Mossad but was actually working for the KGB; he had betrayed American secrets to Moscow. Washington insiders winked knowingly at one another: Pollard's contact in Israel had been caught. Just to make sure that Pollard was blamed, U.S. intelligence sources, several months later, leaked word to the press of the Kalmanovich connection...
Citing 'American intelligence sources,' the UPI announced that the 'sensitive intelligence material relayed to Israel by Jonathan Pollard had reached the KGB.'"
Loftus then fires off his bombshell:
"But it was all untrue. Every bit of it. Pollard wasn't the serial killer. The Jew didn't do it. It was one of their own WASPs - Aldrich Ames, a drunken senior CIA official who sold the names of America's agents to the Russians for cash. Pollard was framed for Ames' crime, while Ames kept on drinking and spying for the Soviets for several more years… Ames was arrested in February 1994, and confessed to selling out American agents in the Soviet Union, but not all of them. It was only logical to assume that Pollard had betrayed the rest of them, as one former CIA official admitted shortly after Ames' arrest…
"No one dreamed that yet another high-level Washington insider had sold us out to Soviet intelligence. Years passed, and eventually a Russian defector told the truth. A senior FBI official - Special Agent Robert Hanssen - had betrayed the rest of our agents. Hanssen was arrested in February 2001, and soon confessed in order to avoid the death penalty. He was sentenced to life in prison without parole."
Loftus then writes that a low-level decision was finally made in the Navy's intelligence service to re-examine the Pollard case, and "with sickening chagrin, the Navy discovered that the evidence needed to clear Pollard had been under its nose all along" - namely, that Pollard did not have the special "blue stripe" clearance needed for access to the room in which the list of secret American agents inside Russia was kept. "There is no way on earth," Loftus concludes, "that Jonathan Pollard could have entered the file room, let alone the safe where the list was kept."
Loftus also writes that he then "began to realize that Pollard's tale was only the beginning of a much bigger story about a major America intelligence scandal" - a cover-up of the deep ties between Saudi Arabia and terrorists such as Osama Bin-Laden. "Whenever the FBI or CIA came close to uncovering the Saudi terrorist connection," Loftus writes, "their investigations were mysteriously terminated. In hindsight, I can only conclude that some of our own Washington bureaucrats have been protecting the Al Qaeda leadership and their oil-rich Saudi backers from investigation for more than a decade."
Loftus continues:
"I am not the only one to reach this conclusion. In his autobiography, Oliver North confirmed that every time he wanted to do something about terrorism, [then-Defense Secretary Weinberger, whose secret memo led to Pollard's life sentence] stopped him because it might upset the Saudis and jeopardize the flow of oil to the U.S. "John O'Neill, a former FBI agent and our nation's top Al Qaeda expert, stated in a 2001 book written by Jean Charles Brisard, a noted French intelligence analyst, that everything we wanted to know about terrorism could be found in Saudi Arabia. O'Neill warned the Beltway bosses repeatedly that if the Saudis were to continue funding Al Qaeda, it would end up costing American lives, according to several intelligence sources. As long as the oil kept flowing, they just shrugged. Outraged by the Saudi cover-up, O'Neill quit the FBI and became the new chief of security at the World Trade Center. In a bitter irony, the man who could have exposed his bosses' continuous cover-up of the Saudi-Al Qaeda link was himself killed by Al Qaeda on 9/11..." "Pollard never thought he was betraying his country. And he never did, although he clearly violated its laws. He just wanted to help protect Israelis and Americans from terrorists. Now in prison for nearly two decades, Pollard, who is in his late 40s, grows more ill year by year. If, as seems likely, American bureaucrats choose to fight a prolonged delaying action over a new hearing, Pollard will probably die in prison. There are people in power inside the Beltway who have been playing for time. Time for them ran out on 9/11. Sooner or later, they are going to be held accountable. I hope that Pollard lives to see it."
The full text of Pollard's attorneys' largely-laudatory response to Loftus' article is available at "www.jonathanpollard.org/".
Stay Safe !
No, I think you're an American woman staying in Canada illegally due to her close connections to Ernst Zundel. Helloooo, Texoma.....
You just don't get it do you? Its not up to all of us to judge, but up to the presiding court. In a Republic, the citizens should have faith in our institutions. Pollard was given all the normal legal protections of the constitution in his trial. The end result of the fair legal process speaks volumes of his crimes.
Excuse me, but are you psychotic?
Shrug. The page has many links to document what it says, i think. And no, of course I can't show you the original indictment. I can't show you Weinberger's a$$hole either.
Is this LO-IQ-day or something?
No, just psychic. Just ask your friend Skunk, aka Tony (or Toni, as he prefers). And when you do, I'll likely be right there on LibertyForum, watching ;).
Seems more like "let the loonies out of the bin" day. What, did you miss your dose of lithium this afternoon?
You are entitled to your trust, and I am entitled to my lack there of.
You throw around insults pretty good for a brand spanking new member of FR (5-19-03). Methinks what we have here someone who has been banned many times from this forum, and yet just keeps turning up like a bad penny.
Is it just me, or are you really some kind of crazed lunatic? Who is skunk, aka tony, and exactly what does it have to do with the subject of this thread? If I had known you were delusional, I would have avoided addressing your posts. Have a nice day, and try not to let those voices in your head interfere with your daily activities. Sheesh.
LOL!
I generally try to avoid insults and such and much prefer a more civil exchange, but some of the apologetics for Pollard on this thread just totally shocked me and threw me off balance. That, and the fact that I haven't been able to make heads nor tails of the last 3 or 4 posts from this Cachelot character.
Oh, is that what this is all about, people think I'm a former poster? LOL, I don't know who this +Bert is, but he sounds like an OK guy in my book if he is the kind of guy who raises hell about pardoning some convicted spy.
Yes.
Who is skunk, aka tony
Ahh, you are playing coy.
Recognize him?
So I'm a skunk huh. Okey-dokey. Whatever you say...as I slowly tip-toe away from the strange, and possibly dangerous lunatic who goes by the name of Cachelot...
You’re right, that’s precisely the point.
Pollard entered into a plea agreement. He pled to one count of transmitting national security information to a foreign government , fulfilled his obligation to cooperate with prosecutors, who had promised not to ask for a life sentence.
On the day of sentencing he and his attorney (who failed to appeal the sentence) were allowed to eyeball a classified supplemental memorandum from Weinberger, (who had already submitted a presentencing declaration, ) purporting to accusing Pollard of treason and comparing the damage to the nation caused by Pollard to that of Soviet spies Ronald Pelton, Ronald Pelton, and Jerry A. Whitworth.
None of this was brought out in the proceedings, and the memorandum was classified for national security reasons.
Secret proceedings may be necessary in some highly unusual circumstances, as may be unrebutted secret testimony, but they’re in no way representative of an American legal process, nor is Pollard’s sentencing, based solely on “faith in our institutions” (Clinton would have loved your sense of “faith”).
Today the national security concerns are long past, and Pollard’s attorneys have granted the security clearances necessary to review the Weinberger memorandum. IMO, there’s no reason it shouldn’t be made public, then we’d all know if this was a miscarriage of justice. At the very least, his attorney’s should be allowed access to the information his sentence was based on, to provide him with the ability to appeal.
Some of the issues are explained in the documents back in post 50.
Ok, back to serious stuff. No, you didn't really. And when the Pollard case began bubbling out of the backroom confines, I actually think it wasn't Israel pushing it - more like part of the reaction to the pattern that Clinton set. The Wye doublecross was classical Clinton, and it upset a whole lot of folks, not just Israel, or Jews for that matter.
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