Posted on 05/26/2003 9:17:56 PM PDT by Nachum
Stay Safe !
No, I think you're an American woman staying in Canada illegally due to her close connections to Ernst Zundel. Helloooo, Texoma.....
You just don't get it do you? Its not up to all of us to judge, but up to the presiding court. In a Republic, the citizens should have faith in our institutions. Pollard was given all the normal legal protections of the constitution in his trial. The end result of the fair legal process speaks volumes of his crimes.
Excuse me, but are you psychotic?
Shrug. The page has many links to document what it says, i think. And no, of course I can't show you the original indictment. I can't show you Weinberger's a$$hole either.
Is this LO-IQ-day or something?
No, just psychic. Just ask your friend Skunk, aka Tony (or Toni, as he prefers). And when you do, I'll likely be right there on LibertyForum, watching ;).
Seems more like "let the loonies out of the bin" day. What, did you miss your dose of lithium this afternoon?
You are entitled to your trust, and I am entitled to my lack there of.
You throw around insults pretty good for a brand spanking new member of FR (5-19-03). Methinks what we have here someone who has been banned many times from this forum, and yet just keeps turning up like a bad penny.
Is it just me, or are you really some kind of crazed lunatic? Who is skunk, aka tony, and exactly what does it have to do with the subject of this thread? If I had known you were delusional, I would have avoided addressing your posts. Have a nice day, and try not to let those voices in your head interfere with your daily activities. Sheesh.
LOL!
I generally try to avoid insults and such and much prefer a more civil exchange, but some of the apologetics for Pollard on this thread just totally shocked me and threw me off balance. That, and the fact that I haven't been able to make heads nor tails of the last 3 or 4 posts from this Cachelot character.
Oh, is that what this is all about, people think I'm a former poster? LOL, I don't know who this +Bert is, but he sounds like an OK guy in my book if he is the kind of guy who raises hell about pardoning some convicted spy.
Yes.
Who is skunk, aka tony
Ahh, you are playing coy.
Recognize him?
So I'm a skunk huh. Okey-dokey. Whatever you say...as I slowly tip-toe away from the strange, and possibly dangerous lunatic who goes by the name of Cachelot...
Youre right, thats precisely the point.
Pollard entered into a plea agreement. He pled to one count of transmitting national security information to a foreign government , fulfilled his obligation to cooperate with prosecutors, who had promised not to ask for a life sentence.
On the day of sentencing he and his attorney (who failed to appeal the sentence) were allowed to eyeball a classified supplemental memorandum from Weinberger, (who had already submitted a presentencing declaration, ) purporting to accusing Pollard of treason and comparing the damage to the nation caused by Pollard to that of Soviet spies Ronald Pelton, Ronald Pelton, and Jerry A. Whitworth.
None of this was brought out in the proceedings, and the memorandum was classified for national security reasons.
Secret proceedings may be necessary in some highly unusual circumstances, as may be unrebutted secret testimony, but theyre in no way representative of an American legal process, nor is Pollards sentencing, based solely on faith in our institutions (Clinton would have loved your sense of faith).
Today the national security concerns are long past, and Pollards attorneys have granted the security clearances necessary to review the Weinberger memorandum. IMO, theres no reason it shouldnt be made public, then wed all know if this was a miscarriage of justice. At the very least, his attorneys should be allowed access to the information his sentence was based on, to provide him with the ability to appeal.
Some of the issues are explained in the documents back in post 50.
Ok, back to serious stuff. No, you didn't really. And when the Pollard case began bubbling out of the backroom confines, I actually think it wasn't Israel pushing it - more like part of the reaction to the pattern that Clinton set. The Wye doublecross was classical Clinton, and it upset a whole lot of folks, not just Israel, or Jews for that matter.
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