Posted on 05/26/2003 9:17:56 PM PDT by Nachum
Pollard gave the Israelis exactly one piece of information, and it was information that the US was treaty-bound to give to Israel. When time came that the information was important, the US reneged on the treaty, which is an old story when it comes to the traditional relationship between USA and its smaller partner. Pollard then took it on himself to pass the information, even though his superiors forbade him to do so.
Had he not done that, Israel would not exist today, which is quite likely the reason his superiors would not hand it over.
The information in question jeopardized no agents, no secrets were "passed on to China" (or Russia for that matter), and it's an open question who actually broke the law in handling it.
His loyalty should have been to the United States of America, he was given orders, he ignored them, he did commit treason, he is guilty. Those are the facts, everything else is window dressing.
Now that's one piece of conspiracy-theory material that the Bush administration would prefer to keep muzzled. According to anti-Bush conspiracy theorists, O'Neill quit his FBI job only two weeks before 9/11, therefore he may have known about the impending attack on the WTC. Given how much he knew about the Bush administration's reluctance to confront the Saudis, his death was not a bitter irony, but quite a convenient one for the White House, so the theory goes.
I can only begin to wonder which Democratic leader might have the boldness and cunning to present a case against Bush for negligence before 9/11 at some point in the future.
Oh, the rot in the FBI (and the CIA, and all around the place) is of a far earlier date than the Bush administration, not that it has sole roots in Democrat administrations. But Bush is cleaning house as well as possible. Remember that these guys have protection, and just firing them isn't an off-the-cuff sort of thing even for a president.
Bottom line, though: I think that if the dems tried, it would splatter themselves too badly. People might start asking pointy questions about all sorts of stuff. And believe me, there's worse than just a few criminal officials.
Pollard should stay behind bars, since we weren't allowed to execute him after his trial.
Clinton, to help Hillary get the jewish vote, was ready to pardon him, but Pollard would have been far more controversial then any of the other pardons, and he knew he would, in essence, possibly ruin Hillary, if Tenet resigned, and start yacking.
Isn't that special? Nothing like not letting those irksome little things called laws get in the way of your desires, right?
Loftus is doing a great job of making Pollard into Dreyfuss. Was it a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy that sent Pollard to prison, just because he was a porr wittle Jew?
Graham from Florida has been trying to pull some of the conspiracy crap, however, the other canidates are basically treating him like a kook. If the dems were to play that game, it could ruin Hillary Clinton, leave Clinton an even bigger disgrace, and destory numerious members of the democratic party.
Honestly, who's going to get more blame for the lapses, a Vice President who just came back from the private sector and was retired untill the 2000 election, a secretary of defence who had no plans on ever coming back and was happy in the private sector,an attorony general who thought he would still be a senator, or, the previous administration, that had been recieving warnings, had dealt with al quada numerious times, and then killed its own airline security study.
Alot of this is coincedenc, Al Gore did have a good reason to suppress the airline security study (Gary Hart wasn't to happy though), he needed campaign donations from the airline industry and he got them.
A few little problems however: 1) I have never before heard that Pollard was blamed for the deaths of Soviet agents. The whole awfully convenient "blue stripe" angle is totally new to the story. Could Loftus be creating a charge against Pollard just to clear him of it?; 2) Hansen and Ames have long been associated with the deaths of Soviet agents, but I have never seen their names linked to Pollard in any way; 3) Pollard's most serious traitorous acts have never been disclosed, just as Cap Weinberger demanded, so how can anyone be sure Loftus knows what he's talking about?
What others? Where are they? Or are you and Loftus channelling John O'Neill from beyond the grave?
Blaming Pollard for these agents is common. It's been on this forum quite often.
Influence? Its a matter of commonsense politics really. Israel produces nothing which keeps the economy humming (excepting humbug like this perhaps), Saudi produces tons of it. When oil prices rise, its the regular folks back home complaining to congress, not the Saudi's or their registered agents. Saudi has revealed its power twice - 1973 and 1979. Do we really need another 4 year recession to remind us of it? Most people think not.
In any case, I fail to see the connection that would make the Saudi's gravely interested in getting Pollard behind bars. Or does he have the explosive proof of Saudi guilt for everything ... if only he could be freed to tell it. I've heard of a lot of prisoners with explosive proofs of this or that if only you would free them. You believe that tripe?
Hmmmm.... Israel is a hi-tech country which produces, among other things, medical wizardry and improvements for US armamante, is selected by Intel as the place to be, and has developed the latest generation of Intel chips. Saudi is producing terrorists and camel dung by itself, and with the help of foreigners living there (in "open prison" conditions), oil.
You're pretty transparent, Hermann. Why are you here and not on LibertyForum?
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