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To: RaceBannon
The tax, regulate and spend state of CT died 15 years ago when it started losing all the big defense contracts that it relied so heavily on. You've had fifteen years to make adjustments, so it just doesn't make sense that you waited so long and got yourself into such an angry state.

Everyone feels sorry for those affected, but not sorry enough to throw away the future of America by laying down what would be a dangerous precedent of caving into one loud temporarily affected, self-pitying group that is being USED by labor organizers. Within the narrow sphere of freaked out techies, it may seem like you will have the power to organize labor and to direct public policy, but you don't.

635 posted on 05/27/2003 9:06:09 PM PDT by TaxRelief (The good of the many outweighs the good of the few...)
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To: TaxRelief
You complain how I try to explain how the world economy and outsourcing are preventing workers such as I from adapting because we are constantly having to adapt to these destructive policies by getting 5 different skill sets in order to stay employed;

Yet somehow, i was supposed to buck up and transition to the emerging economy after defense collapsed in the Northeast with the Berlin wall?

Arent you paying attention here? That is exactly what I have been doing all along. It was 1993 I graduated with my degree, it was 787 resumes later that I got my first engineering job. I have been at two small companies that went out of business right after I left. I worked at Colt Firearms and got laid off because of the gun lawsuits because they needed lawyers more than engineers. I worked in telecom for a year and a half until june 2001.

I have been a project engineer 3 times, draftsman/designer 6 times, mechanic 6 times, tool crib attendant, assembler, whatever. I can do it all.

Guess what? All the companies that used to hire dont. And if you have a degree, and it is manual labor, they dont even look at you. No matter how much you beg.

Better think some more and address the issues, instead of attack posters who are living in a semi-permanent state of transition with no assets to make the move to better climes as you so condecendingly advise.

I have learned to adapt to more than you can imagine, and have a more rounded skill set than you ever dreamed, and due to the economy up here, I am still umemployed, and all you do is say I am self centered to point out how it is the world situation that makes it so?

I am well aware of previous life choices that have no proven to be bad: deciding to try for the olympics instead of going to college in the early 80's;

getting out of the service instead of making it a career;

leaving Kaman due to lack of work, believeing I was making a better career choice, only to see a new aircraft appear a year later, and would now have 20 years plus in the company;

changing jobs to a more difficult one to only find I was a pawn in their ploy to falsely provide a manager for a project they expected me to fail at for a company they hated and then let me go after I did the impossible for them;

Only unlike you, I choose to move ahead. Dont buck me because I see why things arent good, and dont buck me because I see what an idiotic choice all this free trade with socialist/fasicistic nations has been, those things you so readily support.

You havent got a clue. Open your eyes. I have done more foot work to stay ahead than you can ever dream.
657 posted on 05/27/2003 10:31:30 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: TaxRelief
How did I get lumped in to your email? All I did is make a comment regarding the fact that customer service, finance types etc. are already being displaced.

It would seem part of the problem with the IT industry was it was HOT and then everyone and their grandmother ran out to become a computer person.

It was crazy. My husband took a handful of Oracle classes for work (he's not an IT guy) and soon after Oracle was calling him at work trying to see if he had any interest in switching careers. Many in his industry did. All of a sudden accountants were asking to be transfered into MIS positions.

I don't know where we will end up as far as the global economy is concerned. I think eventually things will even out.

It creates an unprecedented need for Americans to go overseas and work. Which can be a financial windfall for anyone who can stand to the leave the US. I couldn't, I lasted a year and a half but had I stayed I'd be financially set.

770 posted on 05/28/2003 10:50:34 AM PDT by riri
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