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That Golfer Has Ovaries—Love Her! (Annika has no business playing in the all-male PGA)
Cornell Review ^ | 5/25/2003 | Joseph J. Sabia

Posted on 05/25/2003 11:41:45 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

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To: america-rules
She played from the same tees as the other competitors.
41 posted on 05/26/2003 6:12:24 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: TLBSHOW
Sabia's great, he is the next Ann Coulter..
42 posted on 05/26/2003 6:16:20 AM PDT by ewing
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To: TLBSHOW
This kid is definitely not ready for prime time . . .
43 posted on 05/26/2003 6:24:12 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: TLBSHOW
Annika could give this pompous jerk 5 strokes per side and still beat him by ten, I bet.p>
44 posted on 05/26/2003 6:28:38 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: Jim Noble
Why not leave the issue up to the number of strokes she takes to get the little white ball in the hole?

Yeah, really. I'm no golf expert, but I have played a few times, and I honestly don't see where the obvious male/female physical differences are going to play any major role here. That game is 90% skill, 10% strength (or in my case an even 5% split on strength and rage!).

45 posted on 05/26/2003 6:37:17 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (All generalizations are false.)
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To: writmeister
You're not breaking anything to me; that's what I said . . . in different words. Did you mean to post to someone else?
46 posted on 05/26/2003 7:56:03 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Pure Country
I'm not picking on this one woman. She picked on herself. She said she probably shouldn't have been out there. Didn't you read the article?
47 posted on 05/26/2003 7:58:16 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: TLBSHOW
Annika did nothing wrong. She played one very good round, and pushed too hard on the second round (a common mistake).

Bank of America got the publicity they wanted, and adhered to their rules to get her in the event. It might have been better if she had qualified instead of getting the exemption, but that's rather picky.

The only problem I have is the inherent hypocrisy of "the women's movement" supporters. There are 3 possible arrangements, two of which are fair and equal. They, of course, desperately promote the third, which is one-sided, sexist, and hypocritical. Those arrangements:
1) All tournaments (in the PGA and LPGA) are open to all, without regard to gender. All qualifying rules, tee selection, and requirements are the same, regardless of gender.
2) The PGA and LPGA are open only to those of their respective genders.
3) The PGA must accept women, while the LPGA excludes all males. This patently unfair position is, of course, what most "enlightened" women avidly advocate today.

Either women's groups continue their moronic "women are the same as men" ideology and qualify under the same conditions as men, or they accept the "separate but equal" solution of two golf associations and stop whining about being excluded from the PGA when they exclude men fron the LPGA. These are the only two fair approaches. Anything else is unequal treatment for two gender-defined groups, an oddly common position for today's women's groups who promote themselves as fighting for gender equity.

48 posted on 05/26/2003 8:27:36 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: savedbygrace
Probably. Sometimes I get confused who I am responding too (particularly early in the a.m.).
49 posted on 05/26/2003 9:22:46 AM PDT by writmeister
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To: HamiltonJay
I played college football. I also played baseball, basketball and raquetball competetively. My pal Bob, is a 72 year old triathlete. I asked him for a comment on those who say golf is not a sport requiring athletic ability. His response is unprintable on FR but boils down to this. For him golf is the hardest sport he ever attempted and thos ewho say it isn't a sport reuiring athleticism are FOS.
50 posted on 05/26/2003 9:29:09 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: america-rules
Maybe she can get an exemption into the Seniors Tour and compete there?? There's no crying in golf!

Pray for GW and Our Troops

51 posted on 05/26/2003 9:32:20 AM PDT by bray (Old Glory Means Freedom)
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To: TLBSHOW
On May 23, The San Jose Mercury News declared “Sorenstam shows ‘em.” Shows who? The chauvinists? The naysayers? The lesbians? Who?

I'm still trying to figure this one out.

She finished in the bottom 10% OF THE FIELD. I'm sure the PGA could have gotten 100,000 amateurs to have matched Sorenstam's "inspirational" performance if THAT was what this stunt was all about....

99,900 would have been men.

52 posted on 05/26/2003 9:41:47 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: HamiltonJay
*rolls eyes*
53 posted on 05/26/2003 9:43:01 AM PDT by Frapster (Angel of Thread Death)
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To: TLBSHOW
Is my view on this matter extreme? Am I out of touch?

Yeah Sabia, you are.
You're a superficial jerk.

There's not a doggone thing wrong with women competing against men in the PGA, if they want to.
The question is: why would they want to when human evolution gives men a distinctive physical advantage?
Why should women want to compete in a sport where Nature has already predetermined that the best women will NEVER beat the best men?

The evidence is already clear from other athletic events where men and women perform identical tasks:

Track and Field:
100m dash: men - 9.78 sec; women - 10.49 sec
Mile run: men - 3:43.13; women - 4:12.56
Long jump: men - 29' 4.5"; women - 24' 8.25"

Swimming: 400m individual medley: men - 4:10.73; women - 4:33.59

And so on and so on....

There is no need to bar women from competing directly against men in any of these events. In fact, if a woman should ever happen to win, it would be a remarkable athletic achievement that I'd truly love to witness. The trouble is: nature already dictates that it ain't gonna happen.

So why should women want to compete against men?
Motivational theory teaches us that goals must be percieved as realisticly achievable, otherwise they simply become a source of continous frustration and discouragement. So why should they want to compete in the contest that they have no chance of winning?

I imagine it is simply for the challenge, to see how they measure up.
I have no problems with that. Women at the top of the field in their own league have earned the right to demonstrate their skills against male competitors. I see no reason for mocking their efforts to achieve the impossible.

Similarly, I see no reason to denigrate the existance of the women-only restrictions of the LPGA. The purpose of the LPGA is to encourage female participation in golf both competitively and recreationally. I have no problems with that either.

54 posted on 05/26/2003 10:20:18 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: jwalsh07
"My pal Bob, is a 72 year old triathlete......"

Your pal is 100% correct-o-mundo!

55 posted on 05/26/2003 11:36:50 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: HamiltonJay
So it was just affirmative action in the form of a wild card?
56 posted on 05/26/2003 2:59:29 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jwalsh07
well a golfer with ovaries is better than a "woman (named mohammed)" that was in the other thread.

I get a laugh out of the people who get mad over people who say golf isn't a sport. they need to get over it. or do they carry a little note book around to write down everytime someone does something they don't like?

MAY 26, 2003: CHARLIE BABBET GRABBED AND PULLED AND HURT MY NECK. AND SAID GOLF ISN'T A SPORT

But...there I do see some similarities in other sports debates. Judo and TaeKwonDo are often derided as being sports and not real martial arts... but there are plenty of injuries. could that be the factor? With all the heart attacks on the golf course, maybe golf IS a sport.

57 posted on 05/26/2003 3:19:33 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
I get a laugh out of the people who get mad over people who say golf isn't a sport. they need to get over it. or do they carry a little note book around to write down everytime someone does something they don't like?

Then you need to get out more.

58 posted on 05/26/2003 4:15:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Golf is a game of skill, it is difficult, but it is NOT a display of great athletic prowess.
59 posted on 05/26/2003 5:10:07 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Frapster
So I take it you're clubs will be staying in the trunk?
60 posted on 05/26/2003 5:10:53 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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