Peterson had called girlfriend

The Fresno Bee ^ | Published Saturday, May 24, 2003, 5:53 AM) | John Cote and Garth Stapely

[runningbear]

LOL.....

[runningbear]

Utah prepares for 2 firing-squad executions in June

Arguelles, left, and Kell have chosen to die by firing squad in late June.

Off subject, but here is a state that continues to give death penalty by firing squad

Utah prepares for 2 firing-squad executions in June

Thursday, May 22, 2003 Posted: 11:29 PM EDT (0329 GMT)

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (AP) -- The only state that dispatches condemned inmates by firing squad is assembling gunmen for back-to-back executions next month.

The nation's last execution by firing squad was in 1996.

Exercising their right under Utah law, a serial killer, Roberto Arguelles, and Troy Michael Kell, a white supremacist who stabbed a fellow inmate to death, have chosen the firing squad over lethal injection and are set to die at 12:01 a.m. on June 27 and 28, respectively.

However, Kell filed an appeal last week that will probably halt his execution.

Of the 850 inmates put to death in the United States since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated capital punishment in 1976, two have died by firing squad, both in Utah: Gary Gilmore in 1977 became the first person executed in the United States after the court's ruling, and John Albert Taylor was put to death 19 years later.

Since 1977, Utah has executed four other killers, all by injection.

Anti-death penalty forces are protesting, arguing that the firing squad amounts to cruel and unusual punishment. And the prison is bracing for large crowds of protesters.

Utah's use of firing squads predates statehood in 1896 and is a remnant of the early Mormon belief that bloodshed is a required punishment for taking a life, said Richard Dieter, director of the Death Penalty Information Center, which says it is neutral about the death penalty but critical of its application.

"Certainly no other state has continued its use or allowed people to choose it. It's the one thing that stands out," Dieter said. "It's part of the history, so there's a reluctance to change."

The notion that murder must be atoned for in blood has never been part of official church doctrine, and the Mormon church has not taken a formal position on execution methods, said Robert Millet, Brigham Young University religion professor.

The Utah Corrections Department is recruiting law enforcement officers for two five-person firing squads, asking the police departments in the communities where the crimes were committed to nominate volunteers.

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[ChemistCat]

Still, if you are innocent and have a good case for the jury, you don't publicize the technicalities that can get you off if the innocence plea fails.

[RGSpincich]

I guess it was too much to hope for the FR to be a Scott Peterson free-zone.

But if you act fast it can be a Semper Paratus Free Zone.

"Lord, give me the strength to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change those things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."

[Jhoffa_]

Still, if you are innocent and have a good case for the jury, you don't publicize the technicalities that can get you off if the innocence plea fails.

Why not? What they did was clearly illegal.

Don't get me wrong, I think he is probably guilty, but so are the investigators..

[uvular]

LOL! Well stated, RG!

[spectre]

"I hate spiders"

I saw one of those little nasty black widows once..AND we had a Tarantula on our back porch screen door leading into our house, a few years ago. I screamed bloody murder..

I almost "hurled" reading todays thread about the Brown Recluse.

Arkansas has them all..pray for us :~)

sw

[uvular]

Wowee wow wow, those are some scary lookin' dudes, 'eh?

Both are dangerously close to having uni-brows, and those spooky eyes-yikes.

[Paleo Conservative]

Separated at birth?

[runningbear]

yeow! scared me for a moment...;o)

[runningbear]

LOL... such critters mother nature fell before us...;o)

[runningbear]

yeah, now you will get a shock on post #29.....

[Spunky]

Dan Abrams was on the Today Show this morning and he said the defense is going to go after the character of Amber now.

He said she was also in cahoots with the prosecution, with them telling her what to say etc.

Also they are going to debunk the motive that Scott killed Laci to be with Amber. They have evidence he was having affairs with at least two other women so Amber was nothing special.

Just reporting what was on the Today Show.

[The Other Harry]

Because monitoring attorney-client and investigator-client discussions is illegal, prosecutors wrote that they immediately stopped listening in most cases.

Yeah, right.

They may have turned off their recorders, but I can guarantee you that they not stop listening. If anything, they pricked up their ears.

I know a few cops. If you don't think they cheat whenever they can, you're very naive.

(Not you persoanlly, RB. You generically.)

[runningbear]

Yeah I saw that too.... They can try, may not succeed.... Tuesday will be something else...

[Howlin]

They're going to prove he's a good husband and didn't want to leave his wife by admitting he's a serial adulterer? Interesting plan. :-)

He's really being given a bad rap in the press

As far as I can see, the only "rap" he's been "given" by the press is the facts of his life seeing the light of day.

[ChemistCat]

If I was wiretapping someone's phone, I don't know if it would always be clear up front that attorney-client privilege applied on a conversation...and just because you stop recording doesn't mean you stop listening.

But wouldn't it drive you crazy to have heard something that left you no doubt about a case, and be unable to say anything?

I don't know. I think we put too many minefields in the way of people actually INVESTIGATING a crime. The time to throw out evidence on this kind of technicality is AFTER the evidence is collected, not during. I'm not saying give the investigators total carte-blanche, but they shouldn't have to fear that everything they do on a case will be thrown out if they make mistakes on some of it.

[RGSpincich]

They have evidence he was having affairs with at least two other women so Amber was nothing special.

Calling Jackie and Lee!

What's up with this? You said he was the nicest kid....they are happy together....she made him smile like nobody else could...they were looking forward to a life together with their baby...he couldn't be responsible for her disappearance, he loved her too much ... Now which woman were you talking about? The dead one?

Nice talking to you....

[scripter]

I know a few cops. If you don't think they cheat whenever they can, you're very naive.

That and over zealous district attorneys are of great concern to some folks, especially those found guilty for crimes they didn't commit.

[The Other Harry]

But wouldn't it drive you crazy to have heard something that left you no doubt about a case, and be unable to say anything?

Oh, but they can. Usually, anyhow. It's a lead.

You just need to use your imagination. They invent things out of thin air which they subsequently testify to.

I don't really object to it. They pretty much need to. If they played completely by the book, not many people would get convicted of crimes they did commit.