The .375 [H and H Magnum] on Elephant

The African Hunter ^ | Maybe 2003 | Brian Marsh

[Rebelbase]

I read more into the site. The Nitro 700 is built on a .50 BMG.

[TexasCowboy]

Those videos are funny stuff, G.!
I'm at work and they load with the speed of molasses in the wintertime.
I'll bookmark it and watch the rest when I get home.

You might not have to wait long for the next shoot.
We're trying to get one together for September.

[TexasCowboy]

"You are right about the beaches."

I'm a born and raised Texan, but I've been all over the world and seen the prettiest beaches in existence.
I've decided that Texans don't want to know about pretty beaches.
They'd rather think that beaches are like Galveston or Corpus where the sand is like silt and sticks to you all over, the water is a muddy brown and you have to clean the tar balls out from between your toes after you get home.
By far the prettiest beaches in Texas are at South Padre, but that's a helluva long way.

[tortoise]

I'd prefer to hunt from a stand or ground blind near a hog trail or food plot. The season on some places is year around but the best time is from November to April.

Pig hunting is one of my favorite hunting pursuits, and fortunately for us on the West coast, there are lots of them (both domestic, Russian, and hybrids) and you can hunt all year for a dollar or two a tag. You can't tromp through the brush without finding them, so much so that they are becoming a real hazard. But I've never been one of those brave lads that looks to go toe-to-toe with one; every year a few hunters here die (often bowhunters) who decided to take on a small pack of Russians and lost. I find a good elevated vantage point where I can look down on a couple heavily used pig trails and shoot from safety. And even then I've had a close call or two with a Russian. Tough as nails, and even if I drop one where it stands, sometimes I have to deal with his buddies.

When I am chasing down feral in the brush, I use a Winchester M94 in .357 Mag. Great little lever action that does the job with heavy loads and gives me a quick followup if I need it. The ferals aren't particularly dangerous in my experience unless they have some Russian mixed in with them. For Russians, I opt for something with better penetration, usually a .260 Remington (which works wonderfully on just about any critter I've tried it on). Hmm... I think it is time to put another feral in the freezer.

[wardaddy]

Precisely ...Pedersoli...except mine shoots #11s....I'm no Liver Eater..lol

I usually shoot 565 Maxie/Minies...although she'll take sabots.

I run about 80 grains FFg and maybe 10 grains FFFg in the breech for more surefire ignition....I usually nipple charge too....the German caps are the best.

Pedersoli makes near heirloom quality in my view.

[wardaddy]

We're going to end up somewhere between St Georges and Gulf Shores this summer depending on budget.

I have found Ft Morgan road at Gulf Shores to offer the best deals on beach houses but the beach/water is maybe 80-90% as nice as Ft Walton to Rosemary Beach which is my favorite precise location.

Lake Jackson?...on my homepage, you'll see my first freighter that used to load rice bound for Haiti at Comet-American in Freeport. Nice Cow Palaces in that area...nice gals too.

[wardaddy]

Yep....I lived in Corpus in 80 on a pipeline job for my dad. South Padre is the only Texas beach in the big leagues.

It's just the way the currents hit there and bring crap from everywhere.

[wardaddy]

I plan to give it a try soon. I simply want a Boar Head...a big one. I'll admit it.

I'll eat the meat of course...but I'm drowning in venison.

Anybody know anyone in Nashville needs any cut or sausage of deer meat and it's there's ...free. I bet I have 150 pounds...I'm burnt out on it to be honest and "hungry folks shelters" have more food than they need....I've called them all.

Hunters for the Hungry will take your deer at the processor.

[Travis McGee]

With the way my luck has been going lately, they would find my lifeless body half way up a tree all bled out.

That would beat the hell out of dying in ICU in an oxygen tent with tubes in ant out of your orifices.

Any day.

[Travis McGee]

I love the happy early scenes in Blackhawk Down where the Delta guys are boar hunting from a helicopter, and bring it back for a pig roast.

In starving Somalia, where they won't eat pork.

[Travis McGee]

BTW, I just sent out Chapter 59- "Flight," the last chapter, the end, (except for the short epilogue).

[Shooter 2.5]

The 577 T-Rex and the 700 Nitro Express are real calibers. The .700 was born because H&H wouldn't gear up to make any more .600's so Jim Bell and William Feldstein dreamed up the .700.

1000 grain bullet
muzzle velocity 2000
Muzzle energy 8900

"Rifles are very, very expensive."

[Shooter 2.5]

That's great. I can't wait for the next one. I should be OK as long as I stay off ladders, watch what I eat and stay the %&*# out of hospitals.

The reason I posted the website was, they shot an elephant and when they approached it, they tapped it's eyeball. I thought that was a great way of checking results before everyone came any closer. The thing is, I didn't see that video in the collection.

I've had that website bookmarked for a while mainly because of the abduls having difficulties firing the T-Rex, putting it mildly.

[Shooter 2.5]

There's a pretty beach near Fort Hood. I haven't been there since '75 but it was the nicest one until I went to Jamaica.

Lousy boy/girl ratio.

[Shooter 2.5]

There's that fine line between going for the gusto and being stupid.

I did find out last month, you can do everything perfect, be safe and still find yourself in a hospital with tubes and oxygen.

Luckily, that only lasted three days.

[wardaddy]

Great...I will be on it listo!

just got back from din-din out with mommy....little bro baby sat.

[Travis McGee]

Sorry to hear that. My mom says "getting old isn't for sissies."

I still like the idea of being found up a tree with wild boar slashes on my legs.

An exciting finish, and people would remember that one!

[Travis McGee]

It must be great to be able to get a baby sitter.

[stand watie]

understood!

though crocs don't like WARM/fresh meat, but rather would prefer us as carrion.

FRee dixie,sw

[archy]

My understanding is that the big cats actually succumb more easily to a mid-sized round than the big antelopes do -- something about the feline antomy making them more susceptible to vascular shock. I'm curious about that because I plan to go back to Botswana and Namibia next summer for a leopard -- and I'd feel a helluva lot more comfortable with a fast, flat-shooting 7 mm mag, .300 Win-mag or even a hot-loaded 30-06, than something like a .375. I don't like the idea of shooting a parabola at something six inches tall on a branch in twilight at 150 yards -- especially with the prospect of dealing with a wounded predator somewhere out there in the dark.

Thoughts?

I'd have to agree with you about the drop of a .375 at distance, though I'd certainly want a rifle that handled well and was sighted in for close work should the cats choose to do some hunting of their own.

Maybe the .338 Lapua as the best of both worlds, offering long distance capability as well, and a very likely pick for antelope, should that opportunity arise, or if you require catbait. And carry of a few *just in case* solids would seem prudent too, in the event a buff or other surprise were to come along. I'm not aware of anyone who has taken an elephant with the .338LM but it wouldn't surprise me. And being based on a shortened .416 Rigby case, it should at least offer a minimal chance of hangups in the magazine.

Perhaps one of the new *short magnum* cases would have some utility, too, though I generally prefer to stick with that which has been tried and proven. But it is from such new offerings that advances come, and there may be some possible gems among those stubby little cartridges.

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