The .375 [H and H Magnum] on Elephant

The African Hunter ^ | Maybe 2003 | Brian Marsh

[45Auto]

The .375 H and H, left, and the .470 Nitro Express

[1rudeboy]

Are those ok for gopher?

[wardaddy]

Teddy used the .405 Winchester did he not?

[Rebelbase]

A friend of mine has an H&H .375 with a custom Enfield bolt.

He fired six hand-loaded rounds the first day he shot it and ended up with a huge black&blue mark on his shoulder.

Its a beast of a round.

[Travis McGee]

BANG!

[45Auto]

John Rigby Bolt Action Safari Rifle

[AdamSelene235]

That's nothing compared to the Nuke 50 BMG.

[Travis McGee]

Semi custom?

[Ronaldus Magnus]

I believe that this month's American Rifleman Magazine has a rather in-depth article on the .375 H&H.

[AmericaUnited]

I hereby dedicate this article to the "Friends of PETA" Club.

[umgud]

I have an article (not handy of course) where these fellow soaked bales of newspapers for comparative penetration tests. The 500 nitro went about 55 inches. the 470 wasn't far behind and some hot 45-70's did rather well also. They were using cast bullets. Impressive.

[I got the rope]

I agree...killing just for killing...then not eating your kill angers me to no end. There are times that elephants in Africa (the males) go berzerk and you have to take them down, this is usually when they are in heat. Why people want to act like a bunch of spoiled brat elitist eurotrash is beyond me.

[jim_trent]

I recently got a catalog of African double guns and cartridges. The guns went from $15,000 to $30,000. The cartridges were much more reasonable. For example, five (as in "5"; not "20" and not "50") .700 Nitro Express cartridges were only $399.95.

I guess if you have to ask, you can't afford it.

[Born to Conserve]

It's all moot. Another dacade or so and there will be no habitat left for elephants. You and I may not like trophy hunting, but it does no harm compared to over (human) population and habitat loss. If you want to save a little nature, you're gonna have to cull the humans.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Who cares why somebody would go throught the bother and huge financial costs of obtaining permits, guides and paying for a Safari to take an elephant. The good thing is that they do.

If it were not for the fees associated with sport hunting, the money to pay conservation officers and maintain preserves would not be there. If there is no teeth in laws to protect the game, bush meat demand will take its eventual toll.

OTOH, you could ban it altogether. That always works for every problem it is applied to in every other sphere.

BTW, most game in Africa, legal or not, is killed with European military calibers. Most of the bush meat hunting in the last century was with widely available .303's from the Brits. Much more of the ivory killing in the last quarter of the century was done by insurgents and rebel groups. Everything from RPG's to automatic fire from AK's were used to slaughter the beasts and strip the ivory for financing insurgency.

As in interesting aside, the widespread use of the .303 may be due to the exploits of Karamojo Bell and his famed rear-quartering shot with a .30 caliber rifle. A lot of dead colonials tried to duplicate his feats.

[ibme]

Elephants don't bother anybody. Elephants are among the top 5 man killers.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

Ref post #13...Thank you.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Deer are up there too - by auto-deer impacts.

Tens/hundreds of millions of dollars of damage a year also.