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Judeo-Christian-Islamic Values?-Islamists say America should honor its Muslim "forebears."
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | May 23, 2003 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 05/23/2003 5:39:17 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson
>> If someone does this [rejects Islam], then it is the duty of Islam to fight him until either he is killed or until he declares his submission <<

>> Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. <<

Over my dead body as well. Lock and Load!
41 posted on 05/23/2003 10:45:33 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: SJackson
Ugh, I will NEVER associate my values with muslims. I'd rather be dead than affliated with disgusting rapist murderer pigs.
42 posted on 05/23/2003 10:48:21 AM PDT by CaptainJustice (Dangerous Jesus Lover)
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To: OREALLY
>> Muslims at our school have complained that the pledge of allegiance to the flag is offensive to them as is the American flag itself offensive to them. <<

They need to understand that this is OUR country, NOT THEIRS! If they don't like it, LEAVE.
43 posted on 05/23/2003 10:52:54 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: SJackson
ISLAM IS THE ENEMY
They admit it, they say it repeatedly. Muslims admit that Western values and religions are evil and to be defeated. WHY do we have a problem admitting a self-defined enemy exists?
44 posted on 05/23/2003 11:01:27 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky
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To: appalachian_dweller
Well I don't know if they left the country but they left our small freedom loving, flag waving town. Happy day !(grin)
45 posted on 05/23/2003 11:15:09 AM PDT by OREALLY
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To: OREALLY
I think this has been posted before, but I think it worth a re-read seeing as how we're on the subject....

IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT

I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely comprised of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language! "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture. If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you do not like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really do not care how you did things where you came from.

This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. However, once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, we highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
46 posted on 05/23/2003 11:45:04 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
good one!
47 posted on 05/23/2003 12:12:49 PM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: appalachian_dweller
you are too kind. I would make it a bit more blunt: Assimilate or DIE.
48 posted on 05/23/2003 12:13:48 PM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: ClearBlueSky
that is something I have not yet figured out. Why is it that so many Americans believe that declarations of war must be reciprocated before the war is engaged? Why do they think only Nations wield sufficient might to declare and wage war? Why can they not understand that the fact that they do not wish to recognize a self-declared enemy bears absolutely no relevance to that enemy's decision to BE their enemy?
49 posted on 05/23/2003 12:17:06 PM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: SJackson
Horse Pattootie!
50 posted on 05/23/2003 12:21:30 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: ishmac
...systematic deception is so well established in the Muslim world that it has a name.
There are even various types that can be categorized.


Thanks for finding the name for this practice.
I was listening to Capt. Dale Dye (USMC, ret.) who has been doing a 2-hour military
affairs show on KFI radio here in Los Angeles each Saturday.

He said that during his posting in many spots in the Middle East and North Africa,
he learned that this "lying as a way of life" was pretty endemic.
He said that the people of Morocco are, generally, one group of Muslims who are
"straight shooters" with the truth.
51 posted on 05/23/2003 12:32:35 PM PDT by VOA
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To: SJackson
This is equivalent to me calling up the Saudi embassy and asking them why they don't have a statue of George Washington in Mecca. Does Not Compute!
52 posted on 05/23/2003 1:05:16 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's a tagline. Move on.)
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To: SJackson
...you’re living in the land of Judeo-Christian-Islamic values...

Only in a Post-Modern World could an utterly senseless statement like this be taken seriously.

The Crusaders of the Middle Ages have gotten a bad rap. They took the actions needed to preserve their cultures and faith. They survived.

Now it is we who need to take steps to preserve our culture and faith. To do less is to commit eventual national suicide. We have a heritage, a history, a Constitution and law. Sharia Law stands in opposition to all of them, and it has proven to be an inseparable component of the Muslim faith.

We simply cannot survive if we go the route France is headed. There is only disaster in that direction.

53 posted on 05/23/2003 1:15:44 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: ishmac; dyed_in_the_wool
good stuff. needs to be spread far and wide.
54 posted on 05/23/2003 1:38:00 PM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
'Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.'
55 posted on 05/23/2003 1:49:47 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: SJackson
We are not the French.
56 posted on 05/23/2003 4:12:46 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: demosthenes the elder
Thanks for the bump.
I'll keep a candle lit for moderate Islam...
57 posted on 05/23/2003 6:25:47 PM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool (Syria. Iran. North Korea. Decisions, decisions, decisions...)
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To: OREALLY
So...Let the rag heads whine and complain!

They should only be "Offended" enough that they ALL would Run back to their 3rd World Sewer Holes they call HOME!

GO, I say, GO back from whence You came.

We...the USA will Not miss one blasted one of you nasty blood sucking Leaches.

Note to ALL Islamanazis...If you don't like our Flag, Traditions, and our Country...then Get The Hell Out!

Nobody's holding any of you here against your will.

$$$$$$$$ is the only reason you are here anyway, the more you get, the more you want.

They come off the plane knowing what Amerikan agencies they can go to for all kinds of help for FREE: Housing, Food Stamps, Medical, Dental, Social Security and SSI...you name it they get it.

And We the American Tax Payers are Paying Big Bucks for their Golden Opportunity to...Rip US Off for Billions of Dollar$.

So, whether you are leaving on your own or are Deported:

Don't Let The Door Hit Ya where your Moon god allah Split Ya!

58 posted on 05/25/2003 9:49:42 AM PDT by Simcha7 (GOD Bless and Protect Our TROOPS!)
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To: Simcha7
I think as much as (some) muslims hate Americans and our ways they enjoy the freedoms our patriots fought and died for !
They don't want to leave this great country, they just want to change it.
I catch myself sometimes lumping all muslims together and I do not mean to. After 9/11 I saw many muslims mourning and holding the American flag. Some muslims have lived under dictators and truely do love America. They too are victims of anti-American muslims.
59 posted on 05/25/2003 10:08:17 AM PDT by OREALLY
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To: backhoe
bump
60 posted on 05/27/2003 1:02:58 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't)
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