Two Studies Vindicate Atkins Diet

WCCO News Online ^ | 5/21/03 | A/P

[Twinkie]

Isn't the lean beef patty vintage ADKINS?? Isn't the
high fat cheesecake classic DOCTOR ADKINS???????
TWINKIE is my old 105 yr. old dog that I face losing any
day. YES, MY SCREEN NAME SAYS IT ALL!! THE MOST LOYAL
TRUEST FRIEND ANYONE COULD EVER HAVE HOPED TO HAVE HAD
THESE PAST 15 YRS!!!

[Nov3]

Isn't the lean beef patty vintage ADKINS??

A fat hamburger patty maybe.

Isn't the high fat cheesecake classic DOCTOR ADKINS???????

No way

Sorry about twinkie but you obviously don't understand aTkins. Read the book and be informed.

[Twinkie]

Let's see. Christ served fish & BREAD. Atkins served up
lard & no bread. I understand Atkins, but I think I'll
eat the fish & bread.

[Nov3]

Atkins served up lard & no bread.

Well you spelled his name correctly this time. That is a step forward. The next step would be to READ THE BOOK. It would allow you to speak intelligently on the subject.

[Twinkie]

I HAVE read ample Atkins material. I AM NOT TELLING YOU
OR ANYONE ELSE WHAT TO EAT OR NOT EAT!!! I DO NOT CARE
WHAT YOU EAT OR DON'T EAT!!! I'm just glad we have FOOD.
Period. - It appears that the main aim of the majority on
FR is to BEAT ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS AN OPINION WHICH DIFFERS
FROM THEIRS into the GROUND!! For the last time, I HAVE
READ AMPLE ATKINS MATERIAL AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND IT IS A
HIGH FAT, HIGH PROTEIN, LOW TO NO CARBOHYDRATE DIET.

[Nov3]

So Atkins is my very last shot.

Don't go on it immediately. Take your time, read the book TWICE. Get a list of recipes, make a menu, find out which snack foods you like. Take the time to read the nutrient section. Be sure to get magnesium and potassium supplements because the diet will have a diuretic effect early on and make you feel bad.

Most of all, stay the course! No matter what the book or anyone on this thread says you will feel like you are DYING FOR A COKE OR DONUT on the 3rd or 4th day. Take some fast walks and eat a lot of fat and you will get past that. Once you get into ketosis real good you will feel good.

This diet works. Just don't be afraid to eat the yummy foods you have been told to avoid. Eat the fat early on. Your body doesn't know how to mobilize its own fats well at the beginning and to stay in a fat burning mode you will need to eat a bunch early on. Once your body is fully in fat burning mode you will eat a lot less.

Get a blood sugar monitor and ketostix too. It allows you to see the diet working. Use the blood sugar monitor before you go on the diet to see how you are changing your bodies reaction to food.

Good luck this diet really works!

[Nov3]

I HAVE READ AMPLE ATKINS MATERIAL AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND IT IS A HIGH FAT, HIGH PROTEIN, LOW TO NO CARBOHYDRATE DIET.

AMPLE? Why does a body burn fat? What causes a body to gain weight? I seriously doubt you have read aDkin's (as you said earlier)book when you couldn't spell his name. I on the other hand had spent years reading the calorie is a calorie and low fat myths. READ HIS BOOK BEFORE YOU PAN HIS DIET AND SAY WEIGHT LOSS IS A SIMPLE PROPOSITION. You have been lied to by people who don't even understand how the body's basic metabolic processes work.

[Pharmboy]

Light beer has 5 gms of carbs; you can have one or two even during induction. You need to stay below 20 gms/day.

[Nov3]

I believe Dr. Atkins himself commented on his bypass surgery in a t.v. interview?

That would be a lie because he did not have bypass surgery. His doctor reported that his arteries were perfect. He had a viral infection as a result of a trip overseas.

[CathyRyan]

Thank you! I have been looking at an Atkins cookbook I got my brother for Christmas. But I did not give it to him because I was afraid that sure as the world if he stayed on the Atkins diet he would have a heart attack and I would feel like it was partly my fault for giving him the cookbook. LOL

[.38sw]

Hm. I started Atkins recently. And while I don't eat bread, I'm not eating lard, either. I'm eating lots of fish, along with chicken, lean pork, beef (different cuts, some leaner than others) and shellfish. i'm also eating a lot of green leafy vegetables with yummy salad dressings. I'm eating vegetables sauteed in olive oil. I'm also eating cheese and olives for snacks. I've lost weight, and I feel good.

[AlbionGirl]

I like your analogy, and I agree. Staying fit requires discipline, and if you apply such discipline you can achieve wellness with carbs.

Italians eat their share of carbs for sure, and Italy has no where near the obesity problem the US does.

I haven't read Atkins book, but I have visited his website and read some stuff there. And it's definitely not for me. Phil Kaplan provides a very detailed analysis of Atkins diet debate at the following site; worth the read if you're interested.

http://www.philkaplan.com/thefitnesstruth/atkinsrevisited.htm

From what I know of the Atkins diet, I bet that a 10 or 20 yr study of it would produce evidence of it increasing your risk of colon cancer by a good percentage.

And the heavy use of sucralose in their product line is not to my liking, as it is linked (http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/) to all sorts of problems. Granted the dose that was linked to potential problems was large, and the experimentation took place with rodents, I still don't want to take in a substance daily that has the possiblity of mutating my thymus gland.

I'll take Aristotle's advise on moderation over Atkins advise on specialization, any day.

[Nov3]

Cathy I will get my sife to post her websites which are dedicated to low carb. There are hundreds of success stories and a great deal of support. Get involved in one of those groups.

His cookbook and the protein power cookbooks are awesome. Maven put some great recipes up on this thread too.

[Nov3]

I haven't read Atkins book, but I have visited his website and read some stuff there.

Boy that was in depth! You need to start your own diet program!

[AlbionGirl]

Thanks, I might!

[Lil'freeper]

You might find this list of "Studies Showing General Adverse Effects of Soybeans, 1971-2001" useful.

[Twinkie]

YOU HAVE ACCUSED ME OF LYING, OF BEING STUPID AND OTHER
THINGS THAT ARE THEMSELVES UNTRUE SIMPLY BECAUSE I RESERVE
THE RIGHT TO QUESTION DR. ATKIN'S IDEAS. PERHAPS I
DO NOT CORRECTLY REMEMBER DR. ATKIN'S STATEMENTS REGARDING
THE PROCEDURE HE HAD DONE AS IT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
I MAY HAVE BEEN MISTAKEN IN WHAT HE SAID, BUT TO ACCUSE ME
OF THE NEFARIOUS GARBAGE YOU HAVE simply because I
dare to DOUBT or QUESTION your GURU is ASININE!!

[Twinkie]

Since you are going to beat me senseless for daring to
misspell your GURU'S name incorrectly, you should first
proofread the grammatical content of your attack. Never
mind, in a few years you'll have yet another GURU and still
be brow beating any poor slob who dares to spell his (or
her) name incorrectly even once.

[Nov3]

Twinkie,

You drop in and pan Atkins without knowledge of the diet, how it works, and never having read the book.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation.

Herbert Spencer

Read the book and then argue the diets principles. There just MIGHT be some information you may not know.

Since you are going to beat me senseless for daring to misspell your GURU'S name incorrectly

< sarcasm> Is there a correct way to misspell my GURU'S name? < /sarcasm> Twinkie, when you are dismissing the aTkins diet at least get the man's name right. You obviously have never read the book that you are debating on this thread.

It is a good book even if you don't agree with him.

[SCalGal]

Thanks for the links. The one I was referring to was done by Jean Dodds, DVM on Akita dogs, but these are better as they are human studies.