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1 posted on 05/21/2003 9:56:47 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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2 posted on 05/21/2003 10:01:53 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Deadeye Division
But Kenneth J. Steinman, assistant professor at Ohio State University’s School of Public Health, said claims of crimestopping individuals carrying concealed handguns are exaggerated.

Steinman, who said he was testifying as a "concerned citizen’’ and not for the university, said a conceal-carry law will do nothing to reduce violent crime, and might even increase it.

This individual is full on nonsense, of course, since all available evidence indicates that concealed carry will decrease rather than increase violence. I think that most people at this sight know that.

However, I think this guy is representative of the majority of Ohio citizens that will be testifying before the legislature. And since our slug of a Governor has already said that he will veto any CC law that doesn't meet with the approval of politically connected police chiefs in the state, I'm guessing that we will not see CC any time soon. Not happy, just realistic...

3 posted on 05/21/2003 10:03:24 AM PDT by jscd3
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More goodies for the list.
5 posted on 05/21/2003 10:07:22 AM PDT by m1911
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To: Deadeye Division
"I think this increases the probability of gun violence,’’ she said.

Ah, yes. I THINK, or I FEEL.

Facts be damned. It's all about the feelings of those who CHOOSE to be defenseless.

7 posted on 05/21/2003 10:29:36 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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8 posted on 05/21/2003 10:34:33 AM PDT by drq
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John Gilchrist, executive director of the group, was not among the dozen witnesses yesterday, but he has said in the past that allowing Ohioans to carry concealed weapons poses a danger to police officers.

And since when were the citzens of Ohio here for the safety of the police?! We are not trusted enough by the state police leaders to be able to defend ourselves as they are allowed to. One of the many reasons why anytime the police want any law passed I'll oppose it. Gun control, tinted windows, harsher penalties for assaulting a cop than for assaulting the rest of us....etc.

10 posted on 05/21/2003 11:05:27 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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"I feel the citizens of Ohio need the right to protect themselves."

The lady that said this didn't quite get it right.

They already have the right, they are just being denied the means.

21 posted on 05/21/2003 5:32:44 PM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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" But the State Highway Patrol has insisted that any handgun be locked in a compartment, such as the glove box."

Well, la di fricking da. I'll put my firearm in a locked glovebox when they do.

22 posted on 05/21/2003 5:41:32 PM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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I agree with passing the C&C law. It is long overdue, but I don't want to have a law like they have in Vermont. I think training and finger printing is a great idea.
27 posted on 05/23/2003 6:37:37 AM PDT by areeves79
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If the police, and the police chiefs do not think that handguns are good self-defense tools, and necessary to protect people, then why to THEY carry them? Any cop who does not think that people need guns to protect themselves, should not be wearing one.
28 posted on 05/23/2003 6:40:13 AM PDT by waterstraat
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