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Tee Hee Time: What John F. Kennedy did was despicable
NRO ^ | 5/20/2003 | William F Buckley Jr

Posted on 05/20/2003 10:20:09 PM PDT by Utah Girl

The story featuring the grandmother in New York City who at age 19 sported about with President Kennedy is attracting about as much attention as the proverbial "Small Earthquake in Chile." There is this difference: When small earthquakes are reported, they aren't met with smiles and half-giggles. — There goes Talcahuano again! is met with fatalistic acceptance of fractious acts of nature. What we got in the matter of the grandmother was Tee Hee time, led by Nora Ephron in the New York Times.

The tone of her op-ed tells it all, the accepted view of presidential intern-sex by worldly Americans. Ms. Ephron begins her story by saying that there was no desk, in the presidential press office of Pierre Salinger, for her to sit at. She repeats that several times, to suggest the aimlessness of her mission in the White House. But did she spend any time with him? Just 15 seconds in the Oval Office, when introduced. Ten seconds outside the Oval Office when JFK was heading for the helicopter. What he said in greeting, as he passed by, she couldn't hear, for the noise of the rotor blades. It was not, as far as she could tell, a summons to his bed that night. Indeed, Ms. Ephron wondered why she hadn't been invited to a stall in his harem, wonders whether it's because she was Jewish: " — don't laugh. Think about it, think about that long, long list of women JFK slept with. Were any Jewish? I don't think so."

Maybe that suspicion should have been explored by one of the civil rights acts, demanding that presidential concubinage not discriminate by race, color, creed, or religious affiliation.

But there is just a hint of misgiving in the press. Writing in Time magazine, Hugh Sidey almost edges into wondering whether such exercises in the White House might end as subjects of moral scrutiny. Mr. Sidey was close to the Kennedy circle and he is one of the sensible intelligences in town. The story about the grandmother, back when she was l9 years old working in the White House as a sexual stimulant for the president (she didn't even know how to type), brought Mr. Sidey to reminisce. He met with some old-timers upon the disclosure of the grandmother. They remembered that particular lady, though this took hard concentration, there being so many who passed by. "Some gossip out of an earlier summit in Nassau," Sidey wrote, "was that Kennedy told Macmillan he had to have sex once a day or he would get a headache. This story has been largely discounted, but now" — Sidey the moralist shows signs of life — "but now it has new currency." Are there any consequences to the successive revelations of presidential debauchery? "The steady procession of scandal is nibbling away at his credibility as a leader. The excess, the recklessness of his actions stuns almost everyone. Old gossip gets new legs. . . . [There's] the one about a friend's alluring wife, whom he propositioned at a reception. When she said, 'I'm married,' he replied, 'So am I. What of it? '"

Well, if word of these excesses is really out there nibbling away, herewith my own contribution to that cause.

What John F. Kennedy did was despicable.

Never mind his abstract indifference to adultery. What he did was to seduce a l9-year-old girl working in the White House under his command. A Great King, seeking that day's vessel for his runaway appetite. The commander in chief opportunizing on his rank in order to overwhelm a teenager who, as Sidey reports, was once spotted in the presidential limousine in Bermuda, "sitting on the floor of the car like a child playing hide-and-seek." It is simply disgusting, to use a word which, like virtue, has lost its license.

When Clinton did it, the excuse made its way to dominance that, well, it was his private life, and in any event hardly sufficient grounds for impeachment. In fact (remember?), it was rather fine of him to deny under oath having done it; anybody out there ever heard of noblesse oblige?

It will be interesting to see if there are in fact any consequences to that loss of credibility Hugh Sidey cites. Will they change the name of Avenue John F. Kennedy in Paris? Well, that may be going too far. Change the street's name in . . . Monaco? Vatican City? Rename the airport?

Just how will the touted reduction in reputation reveal itself? Not in historian Robert Dallek's book, which blew the grandmother — he is the most indulgent Camelotian in town, going so far in his book as to express certainty that if JFK had lived, Vietnam would never have happened.

It's bad stuff. Sidey goes all the way, with his mix of disgust and forbearance and a little exploitation of his own, giving as title to his page in Time, "All the Way with J.F.K." You can't go much further.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jfk; mimi; williamfbuckleyjr
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To: Enduring Freedom
There is an out of print book "It didn't start with Watergate" by Victor Lasky, who details the democratic abuses of FDR, JFK and LBJ *and* the coverup of same in the press and in the congress. Very enlightening reading.
21 posted on 05/21/2003 6:57:11 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: marron
He started a trend of erratic personal decision-making in matters of strategic importance that ultimately led to the debacle of Bill Clinton. He made very bad decisions that led to the Berlin Wall, for example, which need never have been built. The hagiography over the "Cuban Missile Crisis", for another example, makes one want to puke. Consider something the hagiographers never mention. In exchange for the Soviets supposedly pulling their missiles out of Cuba, we pulled ours out of Turkey, which had given us control over the Soviets. That control was very effective. So by letting Castro go free and unchallenged Kennedy then had to give up our best control of Soviet behavior. Kennedy created a trend which was to culminate in Clinton, of creating problems and then posing heroically to "solve" the problems he had created.
22 posted on 05/21/2003 7:00:05 AM PDT by AmericanVictory
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To: Utah Girl
Lingering Camelot Syndrome still afflicts many Liberals. Chris Matthews is a good example.
23 posted on 05/21/2003 7:01:44 AM PDT by Consort
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To: CyberAnt
Keep in mind, the Kennedy family has allowed all this dreadful stuff to be said about their family member for only one purpose - to rescue the legacy of x42.

That's what I thought too. But my local morning DJ's were heaping scorn on Kennedy this morning, with a song parody of Mimi and JFK. Their strategy may be backfiring. In stead of rehabilitating Clinton, they're just dragging Kennedy down to his level (which is apparently where he deserves to be).

24 posted on 05/21/2003 7:12:45 AM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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To: Enduring Freedom
bttt
25 posted on 05/21/2003 7:16:26 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Utah Girl
Why do we fail to express outrage when an older man or woman seduces someone much younger than him/herself, regardless of the political implications?

There is a song on the C&W stations where the singer reminisces about a summer he worked for a widow. He sings about how she had "a need to feel the thunder." He goes on to say that he can never hold another woman without seeing that widow's face.

Does anyone but me realize that the widow has stolen something from the man's eventual wife? Does anyone but me realize that the man trivialized something that is actually of great worth?

Our over-sexed society thinks we are but beasts and that orgasm is just another game to be played.

Will we learn otherwise in time?

Shalom.
26 posted on 05/21/2003 7:26:48 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: AmericanVictory
He made very bad decisions that led to the Berlin Wall, for example, which need never have been built.

Well said. The Soviets perceived Kennedy as weak and attempted to exploit that weakness at every turn. The USSR would never have dared to put missiles in Cuba if Nixon or Eisenhower were in the Oval Office. Conversely, the Soviets perception of Reagan was the opposite--they knew he would not back down.

27 posted on 05/21/2003 7:28:25 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Utah Girl
I think back to that November day in 1963 when we cried for this man in our sheer ignorance of who he really was.
28 posted on 05/21/2003 7:29:20 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Thanks!

"Curse from Satan" more appropriate?!

29 posted on 05/21/2003 11:07:08 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (To smash the ugly face of Socialism is our mission)
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To: Enduring Freedom
Yes, I can go with curse from Satan.

I would add to your masterful description Ben Bradlee of the Washington Compost, who was a friend of Joseph P. Kennedy, who shilled and covered up for the Kennedys and who played a key role in the destruction of Nixon.
30 posted on 05/21/2003 11:28:02 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: TX Bluebonnet
I agree - anytime you get associated with x42 - you get dragged down to his level - the sewer.

JFK was not such a proper fellow. But ... he understood economics and the repubs have been running JFK's statements about tax cuts in their ads.

What better time to trash JFK - which hopefully is supposed to make the repubs look bad - and x42 look not so bad.

I do think it will backfire - BIG TIME!
31 posted on 05/21/2003 11:40:27 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: CyberAnt

32 posted on 05/21/2003 11:43:12 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I think TED might help Hillary, but he would never do anything to JFK Jr.'s chances to run for the Senate.

But ... I have always believed x42 and his goons were involved in JFK Jr's death! I was only suspicious until the Clintons FORCED their way into the funeral - BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT INVITED!!
33 posted on 05/21/2003 11:53:40 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Enduring Freedom
Amen!
34 posted on 05/22/2003 3:15:21 AM PDT by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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