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1 posted on 05/20/2003 3:37:48 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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Hackspit.
2 posted on 05/20/2003 3:40:17 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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I hope Hack isn't implying that RPGs took out Abrams tanks. It'd be about as credible as the rest of his blatherings about this war, which is to say not very.
3 posted on 05/20/2003 3:42:31 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Hack, I used to like you, but you've lost all credibility.
5 posted on 05/20/2003 3:57:51 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The War is not over for me until my hubby's boots hit U.S. soil)
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For example, as I write this, tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars are being spent on covering up what happened to Jessica Lynch and her mates during and after their unit was ambushed and they were captured.

I had heard that. About a week or so after she’d been rescued, there was a news conference during which a journalist asked what had happened to her. The guy (not Rumsfield) responded that investigations were ongoing and he had no info, etc.

The next day Lee Rodgers (KSFO) was griping about the question, basically saying that the journalists should quit asking stupid questions and let her recuperate in peace. Then a retired Army officer called in. He claimed that his active-duty son told him that the Army knew everything that had happened during her capture within 48 hours of her rescue. They knew everything, and it was promptly classified. All of it.

He claimed that the Army wouldn’t be talking, she wouldn’t be talking, and nobody else would be talking about it either.

But then again, it WAS just some old anonymous guy calling up a radio show with a comment. I wondered how it would play out. Especially since in the meantime it has reported that she “couldn’t remember” any details about being captured and detained.

I haven’t heard anything else until reading this. Not that I need all the gory details…

6 posted on 05/20/2003 3:58:57 PM PDT by thatsnotnice
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Hackworth seems to be just a hair this side of Scott Ritter in his support for the "War on Terrorism". He should join Scheer in Britain and write a book about his fantasies surrounding the Jessica Lynch rescue and how everything Bush does regarding the WOT is a conspiracy to support either Israel, or the Bin Laden family, or both. But, that would be contradictory, wouldn't it? Perfect, for Michael Moore, since he probably needs a script writer, or a comedy writer for his upcoming fiction/fraud film.

Reading Hackworth is always a guessing game, of sorts. Is he suggesting that his old buddies the Viet Cong armed with RPG's would be a better model for our millitary than our high tech, heavily armed, Rumsfeld doctrine forces of today? Did he overlook the minor little fact that Iraqi LOST this war in a matter of three weeks? And that was done with an almost unprecidentedly low rate of colateral damage and non combatat deaths via a planned and deliberate policy of avoiding civilian casualties as often as was possible? Could it be that ANYTHING ANYONE EVER DID regarding the military is suspect in his eyes, because he wasn't asked to consult? Hackworth, the Egowarrior!

9 posted on 05/20/2003 4:08:11 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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What a sad, sad man.
10 posted on 05/20/2003 4:09:21 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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>>...151 mighty Abrams tanks were hit. ...<<

By what, AK47 rounds and rocks??

12 posted on 05/20/2003 4:14:56 PM PDT by FReepaholic
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David H. Hackworth was 1000% wrong on the Iraq war and he's saying the same crap now about the new vehicles that the Dems said in the 80's about the Abrams. The rats tried their best to shut down the abrams tank and we know the history now. The Abrams saved thousands of US lives both iraq I and II !
13 posted on 05/20/2003 4:17:19 PM PDT by Crossbow Eel
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Where have some of you been? Hackworth has been bashing just about everything our administration and military chiefs have been doing since the war started.

He throws in just enough credible "pearls" to differentiate himself from Ritter and to keep folks from mumbling "whatever has happened to good ole Hack?".

He's an aging military has-been still dressing in macho special-ops black turtlenecks.

We have the marvelous opportunity to read his articles regularly only because he's handy for the lib media to have around to stick it to the USA.

Leni

17 posted on 05/20/2003 4:34:22 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Last call for fabulous "FReeps Ahoy" cruise. Signing up now means never having to say you're sorry!)
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Article by David H. Crackpot

24 posted on 05/20/2003 4:57:27 PM PDT by Wolverine
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The most scandalous thing from Hackworth's article is this:
But even casual analysis would show that if this thin-skinned wheeled vehicle had been used in Iraq instead of the Abrams tank, the much-hyped "Shock and Awe" would've been for naught, and the spinners would be working overtime to explain the debacle.
Hackworth for "Shock and Awe"?

Yes, you read it, right here. Shock and Awe was not "for naught."

Good thing we didn't deploy Strykers. Shock and Awe wouldn't otherwise have worked. Thanks, Hack, for letting us know, finally, that it worked.

cc: Rummy

40 posted on 05/20/2003 7:59:49 PM PDT by nicollo
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Can't say much about Hackworth's interpretation pro or con.

I do believe, however, the story of Private Lynch is the story of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Gender Neutral Military.

A bunch of goof ball mechanics who can fix things were driving around in the desert with no back up or support and found themselves facing real trouble in a real bad way.

Their weapons training hours were likely to be limited to the absolute minimum, so it is unlikely they knew how to effectively use their equipment even if it worked as designed.

Ditto their tactics and combat readiness training courses.

When trouble started moments of extreme panic were likely interspersed with moments of outrageous and in some cases foolhardy and counterproductive heroism.

The fact anyone lived to tell a tale is a testimony to the arbitrary and capricious nature of warfare.

At the end of the day, the Pentagon said they would deliver victory in Iraq at the lowest possible cost and they have done so.

For what it is worth.

Best regards,

48 posted on 05/21/2003 5:12:25 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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49 posted on 05/21/2003 5:25:46 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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What the hell has happened to Hack?
51 posted on 05/21/2003 7:20:51 AM PDT by PISANO
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I may not always agree with Col. Hackworth.....but I will ALWAYS listen to what he has to say.

He HAS earned the right...and I truly believe that he has the interests of the soldier's at heart.

...and I will give him the highest praise that this old, slightly beaten up, Vietnam survivor can give him.

I would return to do battle with him as my C.O.....anytime.

redrock

63 posted on 05/22/2003 6:03:03 AM PDT by redrock (Ok...so I'm a kinda stubborn...)
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I have always read his stuff. Very good. But sometimes it looks like Ariana Huffington is ghostwriting it.
66 posted on 05/22/2003 6:42:37 AM PDT by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa
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