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President Bush and the GOP Poised to Sell-out Gun Owners
Armed Females of America ^ | 19 May 2003 | Nicki Fellenzer

Posted on 05/20/2003 11:38:12 AM PDT by 45Auto

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To: berserker
"...Rove is betting that you will. If GW does sign this, its because the political calculation is that it will help get moderate votes, and 2nd Amendment single-issue people will still have to vote for him anyway because the alternative would not be attractive."

If your guess is true, then Rove needs to rig the game and pressure enough Congressmen to ensure that this won't see the light of day.

Otherwise, all dice shooters have to crap out sometime. Gun owners gave his man both houses of Congress and the critical states out of Al Gore's list.

We won't be there for them in 2004 if they make the wrong bet.

61 posted on 05/20/2003 4:07:03 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: newgeezer
But, if it makes it all the way to the President's desk and he vetoes it, how much chance is there that it would be the defining issue that leads to Democrap control of Congress and the White House?

Not much chance realistically, considering this is the same issue that helped the Republicans gain control of Congress in the 90s and helped defeat Gore in 2000.

62 posted on 05/20/2003 4:07:04 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Who is Mr. America?)
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To: Centurion2000
No gun owner is going to countenance being betrayed by the Bush family twice.

Brother, you need to say this much LOUDER!

More often too!


Eaker

63 posted on 05/20/2003 4:52:21 PM PDT by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Centurion2000
Damn right. It won't happen again with me.
64 posted on 05/20/2003 4:57:16 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: FreedomCalls
90% of the American people believe that the "Assault Weapons Ban" bans fully automatic weapons and leaves all semi-automatics untouched.

Then the Republic is doomed, because these morons don't deserve to be free.

65 posted on 05/20/2003 4:57:33 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Sir Gawain
And the same issue that limited GHWBush to one term.

GW has learned from his dad's mistakes once, Iraq is a different place after the latest war than it was after Desert Storm. Let's see if he can learn from his dad's other mistakes, namely signing anti-2nd amendment legislation.

66 posted on 05/20/2003 4:57:54 PM PDT by Knitebane
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To: 45Auto; TexasCowboy; humblegunner; Flyer; dix; antivenom; bobbyd; eastforker; iamright; ...
I have been called a "one issue voter", "gun nut", "right-wing gun nut", !@#%$R#% nut, and I don't care!!!

If Bush is Pro-Second Amendment Rights why doesn't he quit playing games and SUPPORT us?

WE ARE THE PEOPLE

Pity sake, support us or lose us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am so sick of this issue being an issue. It should just be clear!!! They ain't a'gonna take my guns!!!


Eaker

67 posted on 05/20/2003 6:26:36 PM PDT by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Eaker
They ain't a'gonna take my guns!!!

I'd be willing to bet hard money on that.

68 posted on 05/20/2003 6:38:00 PM PDT by humblegunner (Molon Labe!!!)
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To: humblegunner
We will win the fight.

You know that I am covering your 6.


Eaker

69 posted on 05/20/2003 6:43:23 PM PDT by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Eaker
You know that I am covering your 6.

I know it. I count on it. We will win the fight.

70 posted on 05/20/2003 6:54:44 PM PDT by humblegunner (Molon Labe!!!)
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To: Mister Baredog; Fred Mertz
Fred Mertz -- you’re afraid you’ll lose votes. I think she (the author) gets it.

Mister Baredog -- The last time I checked you don't get to lead anything without votes, I don't think she (the author) GETS IT at all!

I think Mister Baredog gets it.

71 posted on 05/20/2003 7:07:29 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: newgeezer
We would never be in year three of Algore's presidency.
He never would have ascended the throne.

Never.
72 posted on 05/20/2003 7:11:42 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Sir Gawain
What's sad is the fact that we're now playing politics with the Constitution. That's a statement on the country as a whole.

Yes, I blame the electorate -- not such much the politicians. If the electorate doesn't give a freep about Amendment II, then why should the pols?

73 posted on 05/20/2003 7:13:17 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: Dane
Another hundred votes just left the republican party because of your comments.

Shill.
74 posted on 05/20/2003 7:14:03 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: taxed2death
Yes he is a RINO.

All the Bushbots are now coming out of the Matrix to defend his hypocrisy.

Spending under Bush is way way up, regulations are way up...I can remember how many Freepers blasted Clinton for all of his last minute executive orders, all of which, I believe, Bush has adopted as his own.


Link on Drudge. We are going to disarm Iraqi civilians...can't trust those pesky unarmed civilians with guns to protect themselves against the 2 million plus Baathist party faithful still entrenched in Iraq looking for payback now, can we? Just like we have to have reasonable regulations on that pesky Second Amendment and ban those ugly black guns that make loud noises. GWB thinks that's just fine.

Anyway, Nicki, you go, girl. I hadn't heard of your group, but at least there are still a few good women out there.
75 posted on 05/20/2003 7:18:13 PM PDT by Jesse
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To: RJayneJ
Why fret about an overt attack upon the Constitution? Because there once was a republic, the United States of America, that was based upon a Constitution.
76 posted on 05/20/2003 7:19:34 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Dane
and you seem to lack the sense of even a five year old on this subject.
77 posted on 05/20/2003 7:21:36 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: Mister Baredog
If he signs the bill he is a domestic enemy of the Constitution, just like Bill and Hill.
78 posted on 05/20/2003 7:23:00 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: 45Auto

Both vaild complaints..

79 posted on 05/20/2003 7:24:04 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: berserker
If he signs it he's the enemy, just like Gore.
80 posted on 05/20/2003 7:25:11 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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