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Revealed: U.N.'s Plan for World Government
worldnetdaily.com ^ | May 20, 2003

Posted on 05/20/2003 5:42:05 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!

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To: madfly
It isn't said to you enough, YOU DO GREAT WORK.
121 posted on 05/20/2003 2:54:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Travis McGee
Great quote by Lincoln, maybe I will use that in a preface to my book.

Thanks - I'd be honored to contribute to your book, even if in so small a manner. Old Abe really deserves the honor for being able to discern the point and articulate it so well. BTW, I have a slightly fuller version of that quote, with an attribution as to the context, on my home computer. I will send it to you in the next day or two via Freepmail.

122 posted on 05/20/2003 3:09:03 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Normal4me
The rabbit represents all nations who are oppressed or poor. The monkey represents the US.
123 posted on 05/20/2003 8:11:27 PM PDT by gitmo (THEN: Give me Liberty or give me Death. NOW: Take my Liberty so I can't hurt Myself.)
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To: A CA Guy
Thank you so much. I've always worry about being a pest. But I have received a lot of nice thank you's in freepmail. I'm pretty burnt out right now. I need to take a break, I guess.

Thanks again, CA guy

from a native CA girl (Santa Monica) in Arizona :)
124 posted on 05/20/2003 8:38:31 PM PDT by madfly
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To: Ancesthntr
Sounds great! I have a notebook with about 100 RKBA and freedom quotes, someday I'll have to type them up and post them as a thread.
125 posted on 05/20/2003 8:51:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: madfly
I think the failure of the UN in the present war on terror and their failure to stop slavery in Sudan, etc. has seriously undermined their credibility.

They ain't taking over anything any time soon.

126 posted on 05/20/2003 9:48:43 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Risa
George Bush's supposed goal of integrating our economy with the entire third-world of the Western Hemisphere, as well as the concessions we've made for NAFTA are a BIG first step in the global order direction.

Of course, we have some hope with George Bush at the helm of Government, we have none with the democrats and need to be sure they are not reelected. It was interesting that Howard Dean said unambigously he would withdraw from NAFTA and GATT. Keep your eye on him, he's more impressive than most of the rest.

127 posted on 05/20/2003 9:50:05 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
It was interesting that Howard Dean said unambigously he would withdraw from NAFTA and GATT. Keep your eye on him, he's more impressive than most of the rest.

Note: this got burried in quote above. But this was my comment on your comment above.
128 posted on 05/20/2003 9:52:58 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
It was interesting that Howard Dean said unambigously he would withdraw from NAFTA and GATT. Keep your eye on him, he's more impressive than most of the rest.

Note: this got burried in quote above. But this was my comment on your comment above.
129 posted on 05/20/2003 9:53:01 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Travis McGee
Gee I don't know about a Lincoln quote in a book about liberty. He had the first US draft, had anti-war and anti-conscription arrested without charges, had an unconstitutional income tax, printed funny money to pay for his war, etc.

He was as close to a dictator as we ever had. What happened in 1913 and with FDR could not have happened without him.

Like TR, I can acknowledge that he was a great man, but I do not personally admire him.

130 posted on 05/20/2003 9:58:14 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
...sleep tight my friend,...it will never happend, ever, at least not in my life, my daughter's, my grand, great grand etc.
Our spirit will never be quashed because of the UN/...the way things are going about UN, it looks like they will be put out to pasture in the very foreseeable future.
131 posted on 05/20/2003 9:59:02 PM PDT by danmar (ssed the point)
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To: Jack Black
Valid points. But the Civil War was a unique time in our history.

Do you wish that a slaveholding south had won its independence, breaking the Union?

What great free nation would have then been able to resist the Nazis and Japan, and later the USSR?

132 posted on 05/20/2003 10:01:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Who knows if those entitites would even have existed if the South had won? The USA would not have been big enough to help France win WW1, we might not have fought. Maybe they would have been owned by the Kaiser. Without Versais Treaty Hilter would have been just another bad artist.

I do certainly think that the end of slavery, as a side effect of the war, was a great thing. Perhaps for this reason alone the North had to prevail. I often what would have happened if the President of the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis, had abolished slavery before Lincoln thought of it.

Ideally I would prefer the war never was fought, that it was resolved through negotiation, and (in my alternate history) both the citizens and the states retained far more rights as a result of not have had the Imperial Lincoln presidency.

Hows that? Did you ever read the Novel by L. Neil Smith where the citizens won the Whiskey Rebellion?
133 posted on 05/21/2003 9:31:24 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
The civil war really was a crucial turning point in history, and it could have turned out differently for many simple reasong. The north won Antiedam because of a found operational dispatch. If the south had won that victory in Maryland and marched to Washington, Britain was poised to support the Confederacy.

If...if...if... Fascinating.

I love "alternate history" novels, what is the name of the one you mentioned?

Some day I may right a mega novel (geez, EFAD is "only" 560 pages!) on the Norse colonization of North America.

The Vikings ran into unfriendly Indians, and their toehold failed. If they had run into different tribes, (think of Cortez in Mexico), they may have ended up colonizing North America with Vikings in the tenth century. Imagine that!

134 posted on 05/21/2003 9:53:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: philetus
satan!
135 posted on 05/21/2003 5:16:45 PM PDT by warmath
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To: Jack Black
>>It was interesting that Howard Dean said unambigously he would withdraw from NAFTA and GATT. Keep your eye on him, he's more impressive than most of the rest. <<

He did? I'm aghast! I will definitley do some research on him.

regards,
risa


136 posted on 05/21/2003 5:41:39 PM PDT by Risa
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To: babylonian
>>when you try to warn someone today, they post one of those falling down funny tinfoil graphics and call you crazy.<<

lol. That's my experience, too. Or worse-you're accused of knee-jerk or adrenaline reactions, fear-mongering, anti-competitive or anti-business spirit, or just plain stupid.

I guess some people are just more offended than others when someone expresses a view contrary to their own.

regards,
risa


137 posted on 05/21/2003 6:16:57 PM PDT by Risa
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To: warmath
Actually, I believe that.
138 posted on 05/21/2003 8:35:23 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Risa
Yes, he did. Saw it with my own eyes. It was at the recent dog show held by the public employees union in Iowa (?). It was on CSPAN a few times. Lieb and Lurch (Kerry) didn't show, the rest did. It was not an off the cuff remark. It is clearly part of his planned rhetoric.
139 posted on 05/21/2003 10:14:56 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
It was interesting that Howard Dean said unambigously he would withdraw from NAFTA and GATT. Keep your eye on him, he's more impressive than most of the rest.

And Bill Clinton ran as a moderate, with the most ethical administration.

Dean may be the winner of all the evil, loser democrat souls running.

Dean is only impressive to Martin Sheen (Hollywood) and other various socialists/communists. None of the dems impress me to be anything but lying sacks of corruption with progressive ideals.

140 posted on 05/22/2003 5:27:27 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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