[Jack Black]

Gee I don't know about a Lincoln quote in a book about liberty. He had the first US draft, had anti-war and anti-conscription arrested without charges, had an unconstitutional income tax, printed funny money to pay for his war, etc.

He was as close to a dictator as we ever had. What happened in 1913 and with FDR could not have happened without him.

Like TR, I can acknowledge that he was a great man, but I do not personally admire him.

[Travis McGee]

Valid points. But the Civil War was a unique time in our history.

Do you wish that a slaveholding south had won its independence, breaking the Union?

What great free nation would have then been able to resist the Nazis and Japan, and later the USSR?