[DPB101]

You want all civic organizations under the thumb of the state, do you? Every knee must bend? First thing rabid socialists do when they get power is go after religion. It is a competing faith. The Bolsheviks put separation of church and state in their 1918 constitution. They banned religious schools. Then they taxed churches. They then dynamited or closed 50,000 of them. While that was going on, they murdered tens of millions of believers.

Doesn't matter to me what religious people say. What matters is they have the right to say it without the government trying to shut them up. And that is what the left in America has been trying to do for the last 50 years.

[Arkinsaw]

You want all civic organizations under the thumb of the state, do you?

They have every right to walk out of the church door and go form a tax free communist party. However they have chosen to take over the hierarchy of the major denominations so they can put a stamp of moral legitimacy, the stamp of God, on their leftist political beliefs.

When Democratic Presidential candidates flock to black churches, hand out "walking around" bribes, and try to act like a stereotype black preacher at the pulpit (see Al Gore, 2000) then you have a situation where the church and religion in general are cheapened.

We threw a fit when Gore was taking cashola from the Buddhist Temple. He said he didn't know he was in a temple. Well, I can understand that, it was more like he was in the backroom of the DNC. He had no business being there. Bill and Hillary had no business shouting against Republican candidates from a black church pulpit. Black churches had no business here in my State loading up their entire membership and using church buses and gas to get them to Democratic polling places. None. That has nothing to do with religion at all.