What Santorum Really Said

Insight ^ | May 19, 2003 | Paul Gottfried

[LiteKeeper]

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[Clint N. Suhks]

He believes that the well-being of our society hinges on cultural and moral unity at home. Multiculturalism and coercive tolerance of bizarre lifestyles describes a social experiment, not a civilization.

It’s a concept Liberaltarians can’t completely understand while living in their vacuum. Santorum and Justice White are right on the money, when comparing any sexual behavior outside the context of a normal man/woman relationship then it’s open to ALL “sexual” behaviors. It’s called moral relativism, who are you to say ones animal relationship in the privacy of ones own barn is any less valid than others just because you find it repulsive?

[ffusco]

"Why, for example, should we consider bigamy and polygamy, which Podhoretz as a Jew must know are fully sanctioned in the Old Testament and routinely were practiced by our Semitic ancestors, more shocking than sodomy?"

Poly and Big are too much of a "good" thing, that's why its less repulsive.

[Van Jenerette]

...for Sociology class.

[Coeur de Lion]

The press and their "diversity police" continue to spin this story, regardless of the facts that it has no legs. Santorum was perfectly correct in terms of what would/will happen if the Supreme Court steps in and prevents the state from regulating behavior--because this is what the case is all about. And yes that opens the door to other perverse behaviours--as long as it's done in privacy of one's home and between consenting adults. Instead, the press has framed this story as though Santorum has linked homosexual behavior to these other perversion, which though it is, has nothing to do with what Santorum said.

This stuff has gotten to the point of the ridiculous. The "diversity police", who decide which stories merit coverage and thereby insuring the left-wing bias of the majority of the print media in this country seem to have beaten this dead horse for all it's worth. Today, the LA Times had an article about some students at some university who had walked out on Santoram, who was speaking there as well as receiving an honorary degree, for comments "linking homosexuality" with those other previously mention perversions, though I believe the author included pedophilia as well. I guess it was just a slow news day!

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[sinkspur]

I live in Texas, where sodomy laws are enforced.

They were enforced once, enough to produce the case that is now in the Supreme Court.

Big city police departments in Texas DO NOT enforce sodomy laws in homes.

[ffusco]

Laws about public decency are a good thing and somewhat enforceable since remnants of shame and decorum persist.

[ffusco]

"It’s called moral relativism, who are you to say ones animal relationship in the privacy of ones own barn is any less valid than others just because you find it repulsive?"

A common argument, but the Libertarian would most likely limit the dialog to consenting adults and their right to the free use of their own bodies. A true libertarian would never endorse pedophilia or bestiality for that reason.

[fatima]

Here's a bump for our senator, Republican Rick Santorum,and that is a capital S for Senator.

[Clint N. Suhks]

A common argument, but the Libertarian would most likely limit the dialog to consenting adults and their right to the free use of their own bodies. A true libertarian would never endorse pedophilia or bestiality for that reason.

That's because Liberaltarians are hypocrites...

[Clint N. Suhks]

Go get em Rick!

[ffusco]

Hmmm.Libertarians arent Liberals as much as they are anarchists of a different type. Libertarians aren't neccessarilly permissive , they just don't prefer rules to their best judgement, and they don't tend to moralize based on religeous dogma.

[fatima]

Clint N. Suhks,Got an has guts Senator here in PA.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Liberaltarians are socially liberal as much as they are fiscally conservative. Laws that protect society are not for religious reasons.

[pupdog]

There is one question that I saw raised once that I haven't seen an answer to and I think is important here: what exactly did Santorum say? Literally: what were his exact words?

The quote in question has the word "homosexual" in brackets. As the person who pointed this out said, I don't know anyone who speaks in brackets. So did he use that word, or was it inserted by the reporter for the story?

I think it's important to get an answer to that question for many reasons. Besides at least making the parameters of this debate more clear, if it is true that such an important word were simply inserted into his text, then it highlights just how much of a role the mainstream media plays in framing the news to their desire.

[Qwerty]

"As the person who pointed this out said, I don't know anyone who speaks in brackets."

I am shocked at the number of freepers who seem confused by the use of brackets. They are extremely common in reporting. The brackets indicate that the words contained within them are NOT a part of the quote, but they clarify or condense the quote to give you its' full meaning.

"So did he use that word, or was it inserted by the reporter for the story?"

He did NOT use the word, but taken in context the reporters' use of brackets to insert "homosexual" was appropriate. They were discussing the Texas case.