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The United Way's Boy Scout Fetish
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | May 19, 2003 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 05/19/2003 6:01:32 AM PDT by SJackson

It’s happening again, another badly misguided local United Way chapter banning any UWA funds from going to the Boy Scouts groups because they won’t allow homosexuals to be scout masters – a constitutional right assured the Boy Scouts of America by no less than the United States Supreme Court.

Incredibly, at a time when critics are attacking Roman Catholic dioceses in the U.S. for allowing gay priests to have access to teenage boys, thus exposing them to the strong possibility of molestation, others are demanding that gay scout leaders be allowed the same kind of risky access to teenage boy scouts.

Since the Supreme Court ruled in June 2000 that the national Boy Scouts of America (BSA) organization did not have to accept homosexuals because it is a private organization, about 50 local United Way chapters, including Seattle and San Francisco, have gutlessly surrendered to pressure from gay groups and stopped contributing to them, according to CBS News.

Now comes the Miami-Dade United Way (UW) chapter which says it will no longer give nearly a half-million dollars a year to the local chapter of the BSA after June, because the scouts won’t provide some asinine be-nice-to-gays-they’re-normal-just-like-us "sensitivity" training program for its leaders.

According to an Associated Press report, the local UW's board of directors voted unanimously to discontinue the annual $480,000 grant - about 20 percent of the Scouts’ budget. Most of that money goes to programs in the area's poorer communities, the AP reported.

"It's a serious blow to the council's ability to deliver Scouting programs," scout council spokesman Jeff Herrmann told the AP.

The local UW claims it made its decision because the Boy Scouts reneged on an alleged 2001 pledge to put into effect training programs to help Scout leaders to be "sensitive" in dealing with kids who have trouble coping with sexuality, a pledge to which Herrmann flatly denies the scouts ever agreed.

"Sex education and sexual orientation are not part of our program and we're unwilling to make them part of our program," he told AP.

The Miami-Dade UW is the latest to cut off the Boy Scouts in Florida. The UWs of Broward and Palm Beach County stopped allocating funds to Boy Scout programs about two years ago.

Their actions provoked a firestorm of protests and cost both United Way chapters dearly. When the United Way of Broward stopped giving funds to the Boy Scouts in 2001, one couple donated $200,000 to the South Florida Council, which oversees scouting programs in Miami-Dade, Broward and Monroe counties. The Palm Beach County UW says it has lost about $500,000 in donations after it stopped giving the Gulf Stream Council of Boy Scouts money from the United Way general fund.

Good! Americans shouldn’t put up with these threats to the welfare of young scouts. We can start by making direct contributions to the Boy Scouts along with other groups when our local UWAs cravenly surrender to homosexual pressures and cut funding for the scouts, and we should boycott the United Way chapter and urge others to do the same.

Companies should inform United Way they will not give if UW insists on getting involved in such social engineering practices. If your employer has a UW drive, don’t be afraid to ask if they support the Boy Scouts. Ask before you give a cent.

We must understand that gay groups are attempting to undermine the decision of the United States Supreme Court. Certain UW chapters are being foolish enough to listen to them. They cannot be allowed to succeed.

America’s war against terrorism is not the only war we are fighting. We are also engaged at home in a struggle to restore decency and morality in the public square. The battle to protect our children from those who seek an opportunity to corrupt them is a battle we cannot afford to lose.

Some observers have predicted that if homosexual activists continue their relentless attacks on the nation’s moral underpinnings they will inevitably create a backlash that will send them reeling back into the closet.

Fine. Let the backlash begin.

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Mike Reagan, the eldest son of President Ronald Reagan, is heard on more than 200 talk radio stations nationally as part of the Premiere Radio Network.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bsa; homosexualagenda; miamidade; michaelreagan; unitedway
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To: Cultural Jihad
In a system of self-government, everybody has the right to try and have his values voted into law.

The pro-sodomy activists have had some luck with that, but they've achieved greater successes through judicial fiat.

But when somebody who opposes them argues his viewpoint, suddenly it's "imposing."

Go figure.
221 posted on 05/21/2003 11:34:45 PM PDT by dsc
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To: TonyRo76
Get a spine and quit giving to United Way if that's what you believe about them. You're not hurting them by designating your contribution to Scouting, you're simply enriching them as they skim 15% off the top. Do yourself and the Scouts a favor--give directly to Scouting.
222 posted on 05/21/2003 11:49:31 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What, you don't think sodomists fighting for the right to molest Boy Scouts deserves melodramatic?

Hmm... how about shoe bombs in planes, would that get you off your seat?

223 posted on 05/22/2003 12:12:55 AM PDT by Taiwan Bocks
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I defend the right of every single one of the citizens of this nation to speak their mind, and to ask the government for redress.

And the "redress" sought? A sodomy entitlement?

224 posted on 05/22/2003 12:41:26 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
There are no constitutional restrictions placed on that unalienable right, are there?

Whether that redress is sought for an equal protection under the law issue, an issue of bad laws, whatever the issue may be, the First Amendment right stands in spite of yours or anyone's dislike for the topic.

The hard part for all you guys to swallow is that every citizen in this country is entitled to the same freedoms as every other citizen.


225 posted on 05/22/2003 4:42:43 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Taiwan Bocks
"What, you don't think sodomists fighting for the right to molest Boy Scouts deserves melodramatic?"

Show me on thios article where that is mentioned?

By the way, when you talk about children being molested, you must be talking about pedophiles. Different subject for a different thread.

Now you are adding red herrings to melodramatics while concocting you fear factor soup.

226 posted on 05/22/2003 4:45:19 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Cultural Jihad
"...I am imposing my values onto everyone else..."

Good, you are finally adimitting to it. Now back off, I am not interested in your imposing anything on me.

"...as are you, and everyone else."

No I am not, I am telling you that you have no right to use the power of government to do what you just admitted to doing.

227 posted on 05/22/2003 4:55:00 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Forcing other people to accept evil is taking away their right to pursue happiness"

Your definition of evil is subjective, it doesn't fit mine. You do not get to define evil for all of society.

"By your logic, abortion should be legal since you are never going to be a victim of it."

There is a victim in abortion, where is the victim in the consensual act between two adults?

228 posted on 05/22/2003 4:57:22 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Now, you refuse to answer this question, I understand why, but I am going to keep asking you.

Please tell me which one of your rights are violated by two men having sex with one another in the privacy of their house, behind closed doors and windows.
229 posted on 05/22/2003 4:59:00 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Please tell me which one of your rights are violated by two men having sex with one another in the privacy of their house, behind closed doors and windows."

That "in the privacy" fallacy has been blown out of the water at least twice on this thread, and you show no indication of having even noticed.

Surely it couldn't be that you did notice, that you realize it's not about "privacy" but about an activist agenda, and you're still repeating it.
230 posted on 05/22/2003 5:13:02 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
Answer the question.

The actual issue beoing discussed is whether there should be laws against homosexual sodomy, acts are criminalized when the commission af that act violates one person's rights in one way or another.

There a sea of difference between arguing in favor of the BSA's right to free association, and their setting standards for membership, whether the United Way has a right to withhold funds from anyone (which they do as well), and whether sodomy laws are equitable and stupid.

What you will not understand, is that criminalizing sodomy based on little more than your feelings on the subject, will simply add fuel to the activist agenda.

Nothing you can do has the power to overcome an American citizen's rights under the Constitution, and the more you try to beat them down, the more activists you'll create.

Concentrate on the things that matter, and not on the no-win fights. If you say "no" to any sexual education beingh taught in school (or are you in favor of the government teaching sexual education to our kids?) then you will defeat the "gay" lobby demanding that homosexual sex be taught alongside heterosexual sex, without providing them with the strawman of "discrimination".

That's just one example out of many.

231 posted on 05/22/2003 5:29:53 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: dsc
"That "in the privacy" fallacy has been blown out of the water at least twice on this thread."

There are two, or maybe even more issues here.

I believe that the government does not belong in the bedroom of ANY citizen, thus the "privacy" issue, and I also believe that all people's bedroom behavior needs to remain in their bedroom, which is why I oppose the "gay" agenda or any agenda which seeks to neutralize or even eliminate my parental role.

Two distinct issues and I can easily separate one from the other.

232 posted on 05/22/2003 6:06:56 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Jorge
Anybody, no matter how opposed they are to such behavior should also have the sense to know it is completely unecessary and beyond socially acceptable norms to broadcast graphic descriptions of such acts in public forums.

I disagree - and I would think ministers would discuss such topics from the pulpit if they believed that the congregation needed to know.

While I haven't read anything on FR that I didn't already know, the issues raised do point out the need for those engaging in such acts to get help. It doesn't matter whether they engage in the acts publicly or privately except as a matter of public policy. They still need help.

Shalom.

234 posted on 05/22/2003 8:16:40 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Do you have a reading and comprehension disability? You continue to make this thread into something other than what it is about!

Since you and I are both stupid, I'll let you have the last word.

Shalom.

235 posted on 05/22/2003 8:18:31 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: TonyRo76
Welcome to Phylum Chordata! LOL. Good for you. I don't understand this pressure folks have to donate. I get all sorts of encouraging reminders to do so, but I just ignore them. In honor of your courageous decision, I'm going to have to respond next time making my reason for not participating known.
236 posted on 05/22/2003 8:22:07 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: TonyRo76
You ain't akiddin'.
238 posted on 05/22/2003 9:20:15 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Luis Gonzalez
There are no constitutional restrictions placed on that unalienable right, are there?

Perverts are free to demand a sodomy entitlement, society is free to reject that goal.

239 posted on 05/22/2003 9:25:58 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: TonyRo76
"I will return my next UW solicitation with the donation amount of a big, fat $0!"

Don't forget to tell them why, and that they can expect the same donation next year as well.

240 posted on 05/22/2003 12:19:30 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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