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Vatican Confirms Pope Has Parkinson's Disease
Yahoo News (AP) ^ | 16 May 2003 | Yahoo News (AP)

Posted on 05/17/2003 12:25:13 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

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To: Mustang
I agree.
21 posted on 05/17/2003 1:03:46 PM PDT by wardaddy (The Oklahoma kid laid dying in a women's wing, Just another indian biting dust)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
< tinfoil > After the things he has been saying, they want to replace him. < /tinfoil >
22 posted on 05/17/2003 1:04:01 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: ActionNewsBill
I would guess he has been hitting the bong pretty regularly.
23 posted on 05/17/2003 1:05:33 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Jeff Chandler
g seems to have a problem with the concept
of religious prosciptions against certain behaviors.


You mean like gambling?  ;)
24 posted on 05/17/2003 1:06:38 PM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: gcruse
St. Bernard, the patron saint of drinking, has a bone to pick with you.
25 posted on 05/17/2003 1:08:10 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: gcruse
1.) Bennett talks about virtues (from a Catholic perspective.)

2.) Bennett gambles.

3.) Some (other) religions consider gambling to be a vice.

4.) Bennett is a hypocrite.


Now there's logic for ya!
26 posted on 05/17/2003 1:11:15 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been banned.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Hey! Anybody around here seen my bookmarked pages? They've disappeared from my profile page...
27 posted on 05/17/2003 1:14:05 PM PDT by redhead (Les Français sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage.)
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To: redhead
On your profile page, click "Links" on the menu bar
28 posted on 05/17/2003 1:16:23 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: redhead
On your profile page .. go to where it says Links and click on that
29 posted on 05/17/2003 1:16:24 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I hear that! Is there any connection
between the saint, the dog, and the dog's
mission in life?
30 posted on 05/17/2003 1:16:44 PM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I have no problem with Bennett, as I put forth on my profile. I'm just trying to see what you mean in #20.
31 posted on 05/17/2003 1:18:16 PM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: gcruse
>>I'm just trying to see what you mean in #20.<<

In contrast with you consistantly intellegent posts in other areas of FR, when you enter into religious discussions you seem to assume the role of disruptor. Your post concerning JPII is a case in point; it was just plain mean.

In a free country, a man may do pretty much as he pleases, within certain societal limits. He is free to accept or reject the teachings of a particular religion. Therefore, it makes no logical sense to take offense at the teachings of that religion (unless it involves flying airliners into skyscrapers.) All he has to do is ignore them.

It's been my experience that when a man has a reflexive antipathy towards religion, it is often a sign of that man's antipathy towards religion's judgement of the morality of behaviors in which he engages (or would like to.) The left's anger towards the moral judgement against clinton's Whitehouse antics is this reaction writ large.

This may or may not apply to you, but your interest in ridiculing other's faith leads to suspicion.
32 posted on 05/17/2003 1:31:20 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been banned.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
God Bless John Paul II. He has presided over the stormiest time in recent Church history, and has done so very well. I pray for him, and for those who vote on his successor, that they will be fully open to the Holy Spirit when making their choice!
33 posted on 05/17/2003 1:32:36 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Jeff Chandler
that man's antipathy towards religion's judgement of
the morality of behaviors in which he engages (or would like to.)


I engage in the mortal sin of disbelief.  As for the morality
of my behaviour, I'm afraid too many years have passed
for me to be much of a traducer there.  Now as for what I
would like to do, I didn't know the bible had thought crimes
but, now that you mention it, that seems likely.

Atheism isn't a cover for bad behavior, I don't think, as
much as it is the inevitable outcome of unfettered rationality.
It isn't something one chooses as much as where one arrives.
If I can jig someone into questioning the more blatant silliness
of religion, such as prayer curing Parkinson's, then I think
I am duty bound to try.
34 posted on 05/17/2003 1:42:35 PM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: redhead
http://www.freerepublic.com/~redhead/links?U=%2Ffocus%2Ff-news%2Fbrowse
35 posted on 05/17/2003 1:59:23 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I call this Moses Syndrome. President Reagan's Alzheimers is part of the same manifestation.

Those who free nations often seem to be blocked by fate from truly appreciating and enjoying their works and results. Perhaps they enjoy a higher enlightenment, who knows?

36 posted on 05/17/2003 2:01:47 PM PDT by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: SuziQ
Pray for him that God give him wisdom to know when it's time to stay and fight and when it's time to gracefully retire. Parkinson's also affects the mind, sad but true. It was the same problem with Janet Reno, although people carefully tried to stear clear mentioning the relationship between Parkinson's and the mind.
37 posted on 05/17/2003 2:16:55 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: AmericanInTokyo
and feels God and the Madonna (news - web sites)

Who was the moron that did not know which Madonna was being referenced?

Unbelieveable!

38 posted on 05/17/2003 3:05:14 PM PDT by jimkress
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To: goldstategop; AmericanInTokyo
At his age its amazing the Pope has a full schedule that would tax a 15 year old's abilities. Then again at 83 you should be able to enjoy whatever years left God has given you.

An excellent observation! I have followed EWTN's live coverage of the pope over the years. I am constantly amazed that, despite Parkinson's Disease and his advanced age, the pope retains excellent vision. Unless he wears contact lenses (which I strongly doubt), I have NEVER seen him wearing glasses, despite being asked to read sermons, give blessings in 80+ languages, or read the Liturgy of the Mass. Simply amazing! How many 83 year olds can do that?

BTW, tomorrow is the pope's birthday, but he does not celebrate it. The pope celebrates his patron saint's day. In the case of Karol Wotijcza (sp?), that would be November 2, the feast of St. Charles. However, he will use the day to canonize 4 more saints. What a pope!

39 posted on 05/17/2003 3:18:23 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: gcruse
If I can jig someone into questioning the more blatant silliness of religion, such as prayer curing Parkinson's, then I think I am duty bound to try.

Is it really duty that's your motivation? After all, even if praying won't cure Parkinson's, if a person gets relief or comfort from the act of praying, why would you believe yourself to be 'duty bound' to disrupt?

And unless someone solicits your opinion about the bad science of praying for health, why would you be duty bound to 'inform'?

Also, you use the word jig to describe your preferred method of enlightenment, why is that? That seems so odd when juxtaposed to the mood of your post.

Atheists, like Theists do their best work when not trying to recruit.

40 posted on 05/17/2003 3:45:42 PM PDT by AlbionGirl (A kite flies highest against the wind, not with it. - Winston Churchill)
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