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To: Calpernia
First, where is my rants?

I wasn't referring to you personally. You asked for my suggestion, I responded that I wasn't the one complaining about these "problems".

Second, where are blacks/Non natives mentioned on this thread?

#12 They're converting blacks in prisons to their filthy religion and anyone else they can persuade.

#46 You won't find many well educated, native born Americans among this morass of bewildered souls.

Third, unless you have read the Qu'ran, been to mosque and understand what Khilafah is, then please, contribute a suggestion.

Whether or not I've ever been to a mosque is completely irrelevant to my original point. Which was that is un-American to advocate the suppression of non-PC religions. We've have this thing called "freedom of religion", which is one of the founding principles of this country.
55 posted on 05/17/2003 5:46:00 PM PDT by Belial
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To: Belial
>>>>Whether or not I've ever been to a mosque is completely irrelevant to my original point. Which was that is un-American to advocate the suppression of non-PC religions. We've have this thing called "freedom of religion", which is one of the founding principles of this country

Ok, you weren't responding to me directly. Understood. But I'm going to take up the arguement.

Freedom of religion, YES, we have this. However, back to my original statement. If you haven't read the Quran, been to mosque, or undertand what Khalifa is...you cannot contribute here. I've been. I know. The point of migration to the USA is to infiltrate. Muhyiddin. Pretending to assimulate is called Al Taqqi. You see, according to Shari`ah, a Muslim can only abide by Islamic Law, Shari`ah. The only purpose to migrate to another land is to change it to Islamic State. That is what we define as Terrorism, a process used by a small group of people to force political change. Therefore, are we supporting a freedom of religion? Or supporting a terroristic act?
64 posted on 05/17/2003 6:28:16 PM PDT by Calpernia (The person who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.)
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To: Belial
Which was that is un-American to advocate the suppression of non-PC religions.
We've have this thing called "freedom of religion", which is one of the founding
principles of this country.


From what I've been able to discern, if Islam is practiced faithfully,
there is no separation of "mosque and state".
In other words, many Islamics don't really have the concept of their religion
being a different entity from their government.

While some Muslims seem to have evolved their political philosophy beyond this concept
and are experimenting with democracy...I just have very great apprehension about
how well the mainstream "moderate" Muslim will go with the tradional approach to
"church and state" here in the USA. Especially seeing how good the "moderates"
are at keeping their radical co-congregants in line.

If Islam in the USA eventually works in the way Communism tried in subverting
the USA, then I'd say all bets are off about that freedom of religion concept...
at that point I'd say Islam was a sham religion meant to hide an "-ism"
no less dangerous than Communism.

I think our government has already made this assessement on a limited basis.
A Saudi Arabian consulate official (who was also imam/prayer leader at a huge
mosque in Culver City, CA) got a suprise a few weeks ago when he tried to re-enter
the USA at Los Angeles Int. Airport. He found out his passport had been revoked,
he was held two days, then shoved back onto a plane to Saudi Arabia (or at least out of the
USA).

Of course all his buddies here in Los Angeles say he was totally a-political.
But it appears the US government had sniffed him out as the top-dog of Wahhabism
for the west coast of the USA.

I love the stories of McCarthy being floated in the press recently...it's got to
be for the benefit of Garafalo, SArandon, Robbins, Penn...and more than a
few fellow-travelers of Osama that hope to build public sympathy in case they get
arrested or seized for deportation.

As even liberal media sources like PBS (in their NOVA series) admit: Joe McCarthy
was wrong when pointing the fingers at individuals -- he was right to say there
were a lot of Communist agents and sympathizers in the government.
I hope Ashcroft and his associates have learned those lessons and are able
to surgically remove the bad guys before they create havoc in the USA.
94 posted on 05/18/2003 8:15:34 AM PDT by VOA
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