[harpseal]

Some ideas that needed to come out.

[harpseal]

For your comments

[YankeeReb]

Second, the cost of outsourcing should reflect its true cost to these companies. Revise the tax code so that the investment tax credit does not cover any development done outside the USA unless such development can not be done inside the USA. Fraud in such certification should be considered a felony and prosecuted.

Love to see it..... but don't hold your breath.

[waterstraat]

The republicans and the democrats both want american factories to be closed and replaced by foreign ones, they both want cheap foreign labor to replace american workers. I dont see how we can avoid disaster in this country. There will be fewer and fewer jobs for americans, and most businesses fail.

[Mr. Bird]

They are based on demanding free markets from our competitors.

No offense, but how do we demand "free markets" from our competitors while closing our labor market at the same time? I would revise your proposal in some ways: don't end H1B altogether; there are non-IT jobs that rely on foreign workers, notably in health care. Kicking them out of the country will do actual harm to regular Americans.

Demand that IT workers stop blaming external factors for all of their job woes. An IT worker willing to relocate has a good chance of landing a job. An IT worker wanting a job to come to him has no room to complain.

The modern IT worker has much in common with the factory worker of the early 20th century. It is no longer an elite field, untouchable to the masses. Too many people keep flocking to certification programs, recalling the laughable exhortation of the '60's that "plastics" were the future. What is needed is creativity. If you want to be a standard IT worker, you're going to be treated like a textile worker, because you are now a dime a dozen. Create, innovate, do something different: that's what the market will reward.

[biblewonk]

There is nothing wrong with our economy, it is just readjusting.

[jetson]

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[Tauzero]

I've no strong opinion on point one.

Point 2: I'd prefer removing the credit entirely, combined with lowering the tax rate.

Point 3: Fine by me.

Point 4: Fine.

Point 5: Yes.

Point 6: "no L1 visas will be issued to facilitate moving American jobs offshore.", would be extremely difficult to empirically measure and enforce. I'd prefer a vast simplification: The US will issue up to X Visas per year, for purposes A,B,C, for time periods D,E,F, applications processed on a first come, first-serve basis.

Point 7: That would also be very difficult to measure and enforce, either uniformly or justly, and would quickly become just another tool for extortion by the state.

The main problem with our laws is not that they are not detailed enough, or that we need more laws to address the unintended consequences of the ones in place, like H1-B. We have a surfeit of laws, all in far too much detail, going far beyond the state's capacity to uniformly enforce them. Because the state's resources are finite, each agent of the executive *must* choose to prosecute some violators, and let others be. He is naturally going to make choices that serve the interests of himself and his faction.

Point 8: I am opposed to this. I am in favor of a uniform tariff.

Point 9: Once again, this addresses a problem that would not exist we're it not for socialism. The problem would disappear if the government stopped issuing and backing student loans. This would have several good effects: It would lower the cost of higher education, reduce the number of Americans seeking college degrees, and restore the value of a college education (that value having degraded over the last few decades, in terms of the actual learning and earning power of the graduate.)

Point 10: Of course. :)

[chit*chat]

I'm not a fan of outsourcing. I think Bush's economic plan is great and may well produce jobs, but for whom? American's or the Third World Countries?

However, I have watched our PC society/governement force American companies become social service organizations. I watched it at Boeing and know that it goes on at Exxon-Mobil and IBM, just to name a few.

Mandatory ethics (that used to be taught at home and school didn't it - and was expected to be part of one's good character??), diversity training, etc. Women take 8 weeks off prior to delivery of a child under 'disability' and then get paid for 6 weeks or so after delivery of the child. Companies worry about being sued (and losing) if one of their management employees say or exhibit any behavior considered anti PC.

And lets' not forget programs like the Black Engineers Award (nothing specifically for Greek, Italian, etc. engineers) and the payouts to certain groups to satisfy PC claims that they were underpaid, passed over for promotions, etc.

Companies are either businesses or social organizations. If I was running a business, I would take my work where the company could concentrate on business and not have to incorporate the cost of implementing PC programs into my workday. After all, who pays for all these training sessions and the time the employees are not working?

As an employee I detest outsourcing, but as a logical, thinking person I can certainly understand why business is getting driven out of this country.

[wku man]

Amen, bro. Great post.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[harpseal]

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[waterstraat]

NATIONAL REPUBLICAN PLATFORM, ADOPTED AT MINNEAPOLIS, MINN., JUNE 9, 1892 We reaffirm the American doctrine of protection. We maintain that the prosperous condition of our country is largely due to the wise revenue legislation of the Republican Congress. We believe that all articles which cannot be produced in the United States, except for luxuries, should be admitted free of duty, and that upon all imports coming into the United States coming into competition with the products of American labor there should be levied duties equal to the difference between wages abroad and at home.

[waterstraat]

Why dont you share your ideas with one of the presidential candidates? What you say sounds good to me. Long term, unless your ideas, or similar ones are adopted, the american economy and american jobs, will be history. outsourcing labor and manufacturing is not good. We cant keep a good economy unless we can generate jobs in the US and unless we can get all those companies who built factories in foreign countries, to move back here.

[A. Pole]

Bump

[Centurion2000]

Good ideas ... but it's not going to happen. For some reason BOTH parties of this country refuse to acknowledge these issues.

[GOPJ]

Bump for later

[harpseal]

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