[RayBob]

"If men understood how sexy it is to help with housework without being asked, to change diapers, to call babysitters, to play with the kids ... they'd do more of it."

Hasn't worked for me....

[watchin]

Doesn't work for anybody. For a woman with a sex drive, it's not necessary. I know some real losers whose wives are all over them.

After twenty years of marriage, as well as doing a lot of marriage counseling, I have come to the conclusion that for women without a sex drive, nothing works.

As a matter of fact, all of those nice guy efforts will merely be interpreted as an effort to get sex.

Sometimes it's hopeless, and the promises are just cruel manipulation.