To: watchin
You've got it all wrong - me and my husband are doing it right - we are having a wonderful time because we took the time to learn. Fifty percent of married women have never had an orgasm. That means that half of married women have no idea what the big deal is about - they have no frame of reference to understand why men like it so much. And a good deal of the other half - only have one a few times a year (while he has one almost everytime they have sex). Can you imagine if women wanted the big "O" from men every time, but were only willing to put effort in for their husbands satisfaction every month or so? (The nagain, that mey be the frequency - if she isn't interested - hun?) There would be revolts in the street - men would never put up with that, yet they expect their wives to do just that - and allow the experience to remain less than fully satisfying - on the basis that - SHE isn't interested in being satisfied. B.S. Men know exactly what their wives are missing and they are content for them to miss out on it, as long as it doesn't hurt their chance to enjoy it without her. This really does make it using her as a tool for M-bation.
One piece of advice I was given was to find his breaking point. Proposition him every night consecutively - until he says I just can't perform tonight dear. Who do you think wore out first and how many days do you think it took? If you have never ponedered this scenario - then you are still operating under the belief that sex is for him instead of for "THEM".
If she says it doesn't matter, isn't eager, has no interest - she has been faking it and has never really had one. If she had she would want it as much as you do. She won't ask - and she will deny that she might like to find out - because our culture tells women that it's a man thing, that the bedroom is his domain. She will think that you are buttering her up in order to get something for yourself for the first little while. (You are - but she will win a lot more than you will in the endevor.) Change the rules - change the perception -prove to her that sex is a cooperative venture, and make her believe she deserves as much satisfaction as you do and she will begin to open up. After a while - when she begins to learn that she can have as much satisfaction as he can - she will start to act like it. I just hope you can handle it.
To: gatechie
Fifty percent of married women have never had an orgasm. I find that hard to believe, sort of. Of course, women are different than men. Some do not have purely vaginal orgasms due to the fact that the analogous organs in men are the testes.
Hey guys, have you ever had a testicular orgasm? Probably not. Women have got mini-penises that have all the nerve endings necessary to produce the big "O" if it's treated in a careful and relaxed manner. It's not so difficult really. Women need the added dimension of "being sexy", an intellectual event to get off, more than men.
It just takes a little more time and attention than humping and ejaculating. And they love you for it, as long as you can keep it up, so to speak.
To: gatechie
I see. In other words, it's always the man's fault.
You naively deny the possibility of a woman without a sex drive ... do you also deny the possibility of a man without a relationship clue? I thought not.
Your simple-minded advice will gain credibility the day you can preach it both ways. When you begin lecturing women because their men won't talk to them ... that all men want conversation with their wives... it's the her fault for not learning how to make conversation fulfilling for her husband ... if she would just stop being so selfish about their conversations - only concerned about her own fulfillment ... she allows the experience to remain less than fully satisfying - on the basis that - HE isn't interested in being satisfied. BS hun?
Why is it that women can believe in the possibility of a totally selfish man, but not a totally selfish woman?
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