Sources: N.Korean Defectors Smuggled Out of China

Reuters via NYT ^ | 05/14/03 | N/A

[TigerLikesRooster]

May 14, 2003

Sources: N.Korean Defectors Smuggled Out of China

By REUTERS

Filed at 6:42 a.m. ET

BEIJING (Reuters) - Several North Korean military defectors have fled their country and sought or been granted asylum in the West or in South Korea, independent sources said on Wednesday.

Three sources told Reuters the defectors fled through China and traveled by plane, train or road on false identification papers to Southeast Asia in recent months.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry said it had no knowledge of the defections, which could prove embarrassing for Beijing as it tries to facilitate negotiations between Washington and Pyongyang to end a crisis over the isolated state's nuclear program.

The South and North Korean embassies in Beijing had no comment on the revelations, which come at a sensitive time.

President Bush and South Korean leader Roh Moo-hyun will meet on Wednesday to try to find a solution to the nuclear crisis that has boiled since October.

One of the defectors was army officer Paek Jong-su, 45, who said in a written interview from his hideout in Cambodia that there had been other defectors before him.

Reuters obtained a photocopy of Paek's identity papers, which did not give a rank. Paek answered few questions on his military role, but the sources said his papers appeared genuine.

Asked why he had defected, Paek said: ``To be free from the life there. I knew we were not told the truth about the outside.

``We always have to be careful of what we do or say. Never offend our leaders' honor,'' Paek said, adding that he learned about the outside world from U.S. radio broadcasts.

One of the defectors identified himself as a submarine commander, the sources said.

CRACKDOWN LOOMS

Analysts said the revelations would lead to a crackdown by China, one of Pyongyang's few friends, and make it more difficult for others to flee.

``It puts China in a difficult position. Embarrassed, the Chinese will be forced to clamp down, making it even more difficult for North Koreans to leave,'' said a Western diplomat.

Paek said collapse of the North Korean regime was ``not inevitable, only possible.''

He said leader Kim Jong-il was in control and had the support of a group of generals, but morale in the one million-strong armed forces was low.

``Kim Jong-il is 100 percent suspicious of the United States,'' said communist party member Paek, who received six medals.

Asked if North Korea had nuclear weapons, he said: ``There has been a lot of research, but discussion is not allowed.''

``I think there has been enough research and there should be bombs now.''

Paek, who fled from Yanji in northeast China to Cambodia in April and hopes to go to South Korea said he would have been beaten to death if he had been caught and repatriated.

The defectors -- the first known military officers since a wave of North Koreans began seeking refuge in foreign missions in China last year -- were smuggled out with the help of South Korean refugee groups, the sources said.

Norbert Vollertsen, a German doctor who helped plan some of the dashes into Western missions, has said he wanted to bring down the Pyongyang government by promoting a refugee exodus, in much the same way as an exodus brought down East Germany.

Tens of thousands of North Koreans have been hiding in northeast China bordering their country, which has been mired in poverty and famine after years of drought, floods and fierce winters. Beijing refuses to recognize them as refugees.

The highest-ranked known defector from North Korea is Hwang Jang-yop, who sought asylum at the South Korean embassy in Beijing in 1997 and went to Seoul. Hwang, a prominent ideologue, sat on the central committee of the ruling Workers' Party.

[TigerLikesRooster]

I think that more details of the mass defection project is coming out, in which Dr. Vollertesn is an "actor" and Mr. Horowitz in Hudson Institute is a "director". Mr. Horowitz did an interview with S. Korean daily Dong-A Ilbo in which he acknowledged that he directed the project.

Now that the whole porject is made public, I wonder if the project is facing any difficulty. It all depends on China. As long as China acquiesces, they can continue their operation.

[liberalnot]

robert scheer of the los angeles times, as maoist, when he was younger, wanted to translate all of the older kim's works in to english and publish them as a book.

meanwhile, he made $100,000+ per year as editor of ramparts and other socialist journals.

north korea would be a good place to send scheer!

[TigerLikesRooster]

Identification card and party registration card of a defector. It is supposed to belong to Mr. Paek Jong-Su, but the cards show that they belong to Pak Young-Su.

[TigerLikesRooster]

RE #2

Yeah. He can share Kim Jong-Il's wine collection, too.

[JackelopeBreeder]

Looks genuine. And the name is Pak Young Su. Judging from the picture , I'd put him as a senior captain or very junior major.

[liberalnot]

remember when kim2 was entertaining an american female journalist and he gave her a glass of wine with a snake in it?

[JackelopeBreeder]

That's called "paem so-ju"...

[liberalnot]

huh?

[JackelopeBreeder]

Snake liquor. The snake in question is called a ssal mu sa in Korean, mamushi in Japanese. It carries a neurotoxin just slightly less nasty than a cobra or krait. Chop the head off, let it age in the liquor. Supposedly an aphrodisiac -- in my experience it leaves you with the hangover from Hell. Unlike tequila or mezcal, do not eat the "worm".

[liberalnot]

ick!

i don't think the american chick was impressed!

well, some "diversity" here. apparently different cultures like different things.

i like diet coke, and coffee, thank you.

[JackelopeBreeder]

Never order the "tiger penis soup". That ain't a nickname...

[liberalnot]

the krait was what joseph conrad wrote about, and bit that university of nebraska snake professor last year, right?

the los angeles times was so impressed with his life that they ran his obit 2x.

[liberalnot]

they eat the strangest stuff over there!

take, for example, an article in the new york times recently about the origin of sar--they were killing and cooking cobras in the same kitchen as chickens and pigs.

[JackelopeBreeder]

Snake meat isn't bad. Tastes like a cross between chicken and pork. I've also been served monkey and dog and felt like a cannibal in both instances.

[liberalnot]

i guess it's all a matter of what you grew up with. it's all protein.

the euro's eat horses.

americans draw the line with horses and dogs.

[JackelopeBreeder]

Kraits scare me silly. They're small and nearly invisible. Cobras are okay -- they usually rear up and warn before striking and can only reach out about one-third their body length. Pythons are no worry; they stink and you can smell them 100 feet away.