Democrats....Bush Key on Assault Weapons

Associated Press - Las Vegas Sun.com ^ | May 14, 2003 | Jim Abrams

[Godebert]

By JIM ABRAMS

ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) -

President Bush should take the lead in overcoming resistance within his own party to extending an assault weapons ban due to expire next year, Democrats said Wednesday.

"If the bill dies we will lay it at the president's doorstep," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said a day after House Majority Leader Tom DeLay told reporters that the 1994 law banning the manufacture of 19 types of common military-style assault weapons would not be renewed.

Schumer said the gun bill would be an issue in the 2004 election, a development that could pose problems for Democrats who represent districts with strong gun rights sentiment. The assault ban vote was also a campaign topic in 1994, the year Republicans recaptured the House after spending 40 years in the minority.

Bush, taking a position at odds with the National Rifle Association, has voiced support for extending the ban, and White House spokesman Ari Fleischer on Wednesday said that support would carry weight in Congress.

"This is a matter that the House has to work out, of course, by listening to the will of its members, but the president's position is clear on it," Fleischer said. "When the president states his position like that, it helps get the message to the Congress."

Fleischer would not say whether Bush would pressure DeLay to bring such a bill up for a vote. DeLay, R-Texas, on Tuesday indicated that there would be no effort to renew the current law before it expires on Sept. 13, 2004. "The votes in the House are not there to reauthorize it," he said.

"The real question is will the president weigh in and ask the leaders to schedule a vote," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., who as a senior adviser to President Clinton played a key role in guiding the 1994 legislation through Congress.

[Howlin]

Post one post where I have cut and pasted what Bush has said, you fabricator.

ONE POST.

[Howlin]

I saw your filthy language. Don't post to me again.

[Fred Mertz]

It is AWKF (A well known fact).

[A Citizen Reporter]

WHAT fat jokes? Am I missing something here, or has somebodies spun this into something it ain't?

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I've lost count of the profanity.

When the poster finally stoops to profanity, it is obvious that frustration has set in and there's nothing left.

[Howlin]

You really don't realize that that thread makes you look like a dolt, do you?

[Sir Gawain]

So there's levels of sin? Interesting. I can't wait for the verse citations. Actually, I don't think I could handle getting preached to by someone that has as little regard for others as you do. Never mind.

[Dan from Michigan]

A flame war in a somewhat gun related thread and I didn't get dragged in it. Damn. I'm losing my touch.

[Cathryn Crawford]

No. Absolutely not. You're missing the point entirely.

As I said, I disagree with TLBSHOW about Bush. I do. However, I also think that your methods of disagreement with him over the issue are childish and, most importantly, ineffectual. I was not trying to be argumentative, necessarily. I am simply saying that attacking someone is not the way to change his mind, and, on another point, it will not change any minds of the others who are reading this thread.

It doesn't matter if he attacked you first. You should have the guts to keep yourself above the fray, if possible. I'm not perfect and I don't always succeed, but at least I try, and when I don't, I apologize, as I did earlier.

Doesn't that sound rather reasonable to you?

[justshe]

Todd....actually, Howlin and others on this thread have brought up a very good point.

You do 'cut and paste' other people's opinions when ever you are challenged for YOUR thoughts.

And they are right that most people think, grow, learn, evolve and form their own opinions. Such is my case.

Now....because I do form my own opinions, and don't rely on the opinions of others (Savage, Coulter, Drudge, Limbaugh, Baldwin) to tell me WHAT to think...I can admit....and even relish....when I am wrong. That means I have LEARNED something new...that caused me to change my opinion. It doesn't threaten me.

You, on the other hand, seem to have an almost pathological fear of ever being wrong. I have seen you argue that the sky was red...when all facts have shown you the sky was blue...simply because YOU STATED, initially, that the sky was red.

Having your OWN thoughts is liberating. You should attempt it at some point.

[Howlin]

Howling was INACTIVE for awhile, but that's another story.

And you know exactly why, because I told you. You just LOVE to insinuate that for some reason I let my registration lapse when you know DAMN WELL it was when my son died and it had to do with his car registration being in my name and being sold without being inspected.

I told you that myself PERSONALLY, Fred. Why do you CONTINUE TO BRING UP MY SON'S DEATH??????????

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I don't understand why the sumo guy and someone's Jenny Craig joke would offend anyone............unless it implied some kind of truth. Who knows?????

Maybe we need to find out what's behind all this defensiveness.

[TLBSHOW]

Only to the 10.

[Sir Gawain]

WHAT fat jokes?

There's more than that if you cared to try and find them.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

OMG, look what showed up.

That's it? Pinging another groin-kicker, to take a shot at me just because I pointed out you are the biggest misogynistic name-caller on FR? You can't handle that by yourself? Good grief.

Don't pretend to be a victim, Fred. There isn't a single soul on FreeRepublic who would buy that.

[justshe]

Oh.....you're right. It is the TV signal that is missing. Too bad.

[Howlin]

It is AWKF (A well known fact).

You are a liar, Fred. An out and out liar.

I told you exactly what happened and you continue to bring my dead son onto this forum.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Sorry. Already did. And, I apologized for the language, too. It was a moment of weakness, a moment I'm sure you've never experienced before. But, I'll apologize again. I'm sorry.

Now, are you going to apologize to me? I doubt it.

I'll make it anyway.

[Fred Mertz]

Nothing is reasonable when you're dealing with the bushbots. Watch and learn.