Democrats....Bush Key on Assault Weapons

Associated Press - Las Vegas Sun.com ^ | May 14, 2003 | Jim Abrams

[Godebert]

By JIM ABRAMS

ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) -

President Bush should take the lead in overcoming resistance within his own party to extending an assault weapons ban due to expire next year, Democrats said Wednesday.

"If the bill dies we will lay it at the president's doorstep," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said a day after House Majority Leader Tom DeLay told reporters that the 1994 law banning the manufacture of 19 types of common military-style assault weapons would not be renewed.

Schumer said the gun bill would be an issue in the 2004 election, a development that could pose problems for Democrats who represent districts with strong gun rights sentiment. The assault ban vote was also a campaign topic in 1994, the year Republicans recaptured the House after spending 40 years in the minority.

Bush, taking a position at odds with the National Rifle Association, has voiced support for extending the ban, and White House spokesman Ari Fleischer on Wednesday said that support would carry weight in Congress.

"This is a matter that the House has to work out, of course, by listening to the will of its members, but the president's position is clear on it," Fleischer said. "When the president states his position like that, it helps get the message to the Congress."

Fleischer would not say whether Bush would pressure DeLay to bring such a bill up for a vote. DeLay, R-Texas, on Tuesday indicated that there would be no effort to renew the current law before it expires on Sept. 13, 2004. "The votes in the House are not there to reauthorize it," he said.

"The real question is will the president weigh in and ask the leaders to schedule a vote," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., who as a senior adviser to President Clinton played a key role in guiding the 1994 legislation through Congress.

[Sir Gawain]

Thanks, I learned from the best right on this thread.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Nope, I've only been around for a short time. Forgive me for my stupidity, as I am so young and clueness. My sins are great, but I haven't engaged in the sin of pure spite, tonight, thankfully.

I don't care if you think it was tacky. Tacky!?!?! WTF do you call demeaning yourself down to calling people "fat" to win a damn argument?

I don't even agree with TLBSHOW about Bush, but, shit, some of you people are pathetic. How disappointing to have to be on the same side.

[Dane]

I call people who use viciousness in their arguments (no matter what side they are on) childish.

So you are basically saying that the person who starts the viciousness(the cut and paste, out of context quotes about the President) should be let off the hook and the people who call him on it are childish.

[TLBSHOW]

I do NOT like people accusing the president of the United States of treason.

again you are lying. what part of Grover Norquest does not compute with you?

Now I have called Clinton a traitor at the time he was President and I bet you did too.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I've been called much worse by her.

Gosh, that's awful Fred. Of course, you see absolutely nothing wrong with calling her the horrible, disgusting things you've called her in this forum, which are far more offensive than anything she's come close to calling you. Do you type this crap with a straight face?

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Look, sweetheart (you like that term), you are here doing exactly what everyone else is, so you ought to can the high horse routine.

Save that act for your friends, Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest.

[Howlin]

No, you dolt. See, I'll explain it to you once again:

Some of us don't have to SEARCH all over the internet to find QUOTES and THOUGHTS about what OTHER people thing about an ongoing EVENT so that we can know what to think!!! I know it's a novel concept for you, and one you'll never grasp, but it actually happens.

Some of us actually have our OWN values and our OWN principles formulated from years of thought and experience -- and are capable of forumulating and voicing our VERY OWN thoughts and opinions, without having to hear somebody else say them first so we can copy them down and pretend they are their own.

I stood with the RIGHT people -- the people who are NOT bigots.

[TLBSHOW]

Sad part is you stood with the rats over the Trent Lott affair dear.

[Fred Mertz]

I have more men friends on this forum than you do, Fred.

Yeah, whatever.

I can't help it if no one likes me.

[TLBSHOW]

She has you beat by miles it would take you years to catch up to her smarts!

[TLBSHOW]

do you recall what Jesse Lee peterson said about Trent?

[Cathryn Crawford]

I didn't say anything about that. As I stated, I disagree with TLBSHOW about Bush.

I call resorting to vicious personal attacks childish. Can't you come up with a better argument than, you're fat, or ugly, or whatever? Don't you know how to debate? Aren't you better than that? Jesus!

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

but, shit, .........WTF

Uh-oh..........nice-nice is melting away, dearie. Just can't maintain that act too long, can you?

[TLBSHOW]

Ann Coulter or Chuck Baldwin or Rush or Michael Savage has said about me, you're left to your own thoughts


don't flatter yourselve

[Fred Mertz]

OMG, look what showed up.

[deport]

Hell even a rat can find a LOTT of cheese once in a while....


Kinda like Pizza and Fox News.....

Here come May 1, 2004

[Cathryn Crawford]

Exactly what is that?

I don't recall. Refresh my memory.

[Travis McGee]

I like you both fine. Now can we put this thread to bed and move on?

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Jesus!

You've lost me and a lot of other people with this, Cathryn. You have trumped anything you have criticized here.