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Rumsfeld: US Used new Missile in Iraq
AP ^ | May 14, 2003 | Matt Kelley

Posted on 05/14/2003 10:45:21 AM PDT by hotpotato

WASHINGTON - The United States used a new kind of missile for the first time in Iraq that can destroy the contents of the first floor of a building while leaving the rest of the structure intact, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress on Wednesday.

Rumsfeld said the new Hellfire missile uses a thermobaric warhead - which detonates an explosive "mist" to create a crushing blast wave.

American forces used another new kind of thermobaric bomb for the first time during the war in Afghanistan to clear out caves where Taliban and al-Qaida members were hiding. Putting a thermobaric warhead on a Hellfire missile - which are most often carried by helicopters such as the AH-64 Apache - allows the technology to be used by forces that can act more quickly and closer to the battle.

Rumsfeld said the new missile "can take out the first floor of a building without damaging the floors above, and is capable of reaching around corners, striking enemy forces that hide in caves or bunkers and hardened multiroom complexes."

The new Hellfire missile is an example of the kind of high-tech weaponry the Pentagon wants more money to develop, Rumsfeld told a Senate Appropriations subcommittee. He was testifying to support President Bush's $380 billion defense budget request for 2004.

The proposal would represent a 4.2 percent increase over this year's Pentagon budget, not including the more than $62 billion Congress approved for spending on the Iraq war.

Rumsfeld said Bush's budget proposal, despite the increase, took risks in putting money toward forming and equipping a lighter, more mobile military. The spending proposal is part of a four-year Pentagon budget plan that seeks to save $80 billion by 2009 by canceling or scaling back programs which don't fit into that vision.

"We've tried to balance those risks and it's not an easy thing to do," Rumsfeld said.

The U.S.-led victory over Saddam Hussein's forces in Iraq proved the value of moves to transform the military, Rumsfeld said. He said $24 billion of the budget proposal was for programs to support that transformation.

Rumsfeld said the speed of the three-week American advance from the Kuwait border to Baghdad is an example of the way the military should work in the future.

"It seems likely the enemy was not able to mount a coherent defense ... in part because the coalition advance was so much faster than anticipated," Rumsfeld said.

The new Hellfire missile, Rumsfeld said, "went from development to deployment in one year." Rumsfeld wants Congress to loosen the Pentagon's weapons development process to allow more rapid development and fielding of high-tech systems.

U.S. special operations forces had infiltrated Iraq before the war began, Rumsfeld told the Senate panel. Hundreds more surged into western Iraq and other regions of the country as regular military units crossed into southern Iraq from Kuwait, he said.

Those elite forces seized airfields, identified targets and worked to prevent Iraq from firing missiles at its neighbors, Rumsfeld said.

Bush's budget proposal includes a $1.5 billion increase for special operations forces, including adding more than 1,800 people to the elite units.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aar; aftermathanalysis; hellfiremissiles; iraq; iraqifreedom; miltech; missile; missiles; rumsfeld; terror; thermobaric; turass; war
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1 posted on 05/14/2003 10:45:21 AM PDT by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
Kool!
2 posted on 05/14/2003 10:50:17 AM PDT by backhoe (My Guns Protect Your Freedom...)
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To: hotpotato
Rumsfeld said the new missile "can take out the first floor of a building without damaging the floors above, and is capable of reaching around corners, striking enemy forces that hide in caves or bunkers and hardened multiroom complexes."

Look out you stinking A-Rabs! You won't be able to hide much longer.
3 posted on 05/14/2003 10:53:43 AM PDT by Nagual
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To: hotpotato; backhoe
Could these missiles be carried by our Predators?
4 posted on 05/14/2003 10:53:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: hotpotato
The new Hellfire missile, Rumsfeld said, "went from development to deployment in one year." Rumsfeld wants Congress to loosen the Pentagon's weapons development process to allow more rapid development and fielding of high-tech systems.

Credit military success to Clinton's policies, not Bush's defense spending spree

Posted by gov_bean_ counter to arielb
On News/Activism 04/10/2003 1:04 PM PDT #35 of 113

The writer of this article is completely clueless regarding the procurement process, milestones and weapons production phases. Eighteen months is more than long enough to take a shelved prototype through testing and production. The real analysis would be in taking a look at shelved designs. I'm betting that great ideas were dusted off and pushed through the system.

I was close.

5 posted on 05/14/2003 11:01:27 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Overtaxed; HairOfTheDog; JenB; 2Jedismom
American forces used another new kind of thermobaric bomb for the first time during the war in Afghanistan to clear out caves where Taliban and al-Qaida members were hiding.
Putting a thermobaric warhead on a Hellfire missile - which are most often carried by helicopters such as the AH-64 Apache - allows the technology to be used by forces that can act more quickly and closer to the battle.

Muahahaha!!
Make your time, Hobbits!!

3/04/2002: Thermobaric Bomb Destroys Hobbit Hole

6 posted on 05/14/2003 11:06:13 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
We already know that doesn't work on Hobbit Holes!
7 posted on 05/14/2003 11:10:12 AM PDT by Overtaxed (I like my metaphors shaken, not stirred.)
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To: Overtaxed
This is the New, Improved Version.
8 posted on 05/14/2003 11:14:36 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Say, Frodo! What's that whistling sound I hear overhead?)
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To: Constitution Day
Hmmmm....do you know if they did any R&D on Hobbit-type Holes?
9 posted on 05/14/2003 11:18:32 AM PDT by Overtaxed (I like my metaphors dry and with a cherry.)
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To: Overtaxed
Sorry. Need-to-know basis.
10 posted on 05/14/2003 11:20:29 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: hotpotato
The US Forces in Iraq have used a number of new and/or improved weapons, but I haven't seen any official appraisal of their effectiveness. Although there is no official body count, I can't help but wonder what it is, as I'm sure someone must be counting. Anyone have any idea's. I can't tell who's winning without a score card.
11 posted on 05/14/2003 11:20:43 AM PDT by Joee
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To: Constitution Day
Well if they're going to bomb my Hole, I think that I should know!
12 posted on 05/14/2003 11:21:27 AM PDT by Overtaxed (Smash the dishes, crack the plates.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
huh? yeah we won in Iraq and Afghanistan because of Desert Fox and a few missiles lobbed against a bunch of tents in Afghanistan?
13 posted on 05/14/2003 11:26:53 AM PDT by arielb
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14 posted on 05/14/2003 11:27:05 AM PDT by 2Jedismom ('The commitment of our fathers is now the calling of our time')
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To: 2Jedismom
Looks like Hobbit Holes can take it!
15 posted on 05/14/2003 11:37:56 AM PDT by Overtaxed (Smash the dishes, crack the plates.)
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To: 2Jedismom; Overtaxed; Constitution Day
I do not fear them!
16 posted on 05/14/2003 11:38:17 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Are we insured for thermobaric bombs?
17 posted on 05/14/2003 11:42:22 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Grampa Dave
Seems likely. It sounds like the guts of it is a warhead that can be mounted on a Hellfire missile, and I believe those can and have been fired from UAV's (see: Yemen / Terrorist / Grease Spot)
18 posted on 05/14/2003 11:43:13 AM PDT by katana
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To: Overtaxed
Can't touch us.... Things are made to endure in the Shire....
19 posted on 05/14/2003 11:43:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
...must be all that spam. :)
20 posted on 05/14/2003 11:44:55 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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