[CaptRon]

Where did you get the idea that New York doesn't allow guns?

[Khepera]

I keep hearing they have some insane gun laws. maybe its just NYC.

[tphil913]

Ok. Tell me how I get a pistol permit in NYC without being politically connected or on the police force. Or tell me how to get an unrestricted carry permit in Erie or Onondaga county.

Getting my permit in Erie county, and then living in Onondaga county for 14 years taught me one thing about pistol permits in NY: Suck up to the local judge or forget it. They hold the power over your permit. They can deny issuing you one or revoke your current permit at a whim.

Tack on the other bullshit thanks to George "Mario Cuomo" Pataki and the NYC syncophants in the NY Legislature and NY is one of the most anti-firearm states in the US with the exception of those states that have outright bans.