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Vieques Protest Backfires
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Posted on 05/14/2003 8:50:00 AM PDT by budanski

May 9, 2003: Bowing to political pressure, the Vieques bombing range in Puerto Rico was closed earlier this month. While there are bombing and artillery ranges all over the United States, this was the first time shutting one down because a popular political cause. Eventually the politicians caved. But it turns out there will be consequences. The nearby Roosevelt Roads naval base serves mainly to support ships using the Vieques bombing range. The base is being closed. The base provided 1200 local civilians with jobs, as well as 700 military personnel. The base put $300 million a year into the local economy. The jobs, and the navy ships and aircraft, are moving north to Florida, where an existing bombing range will be used. The weather conditions are not as placid in Florida as in Puerto Rico, meaning there will be more training delays for bad weather, and the waters off Florida are more crowded, meaning more expense to keep areas clear when the warships and warplanes are exercising. The governor of Puerto Rico complained about the loss of the jobs, but he and his fellow Puerto Rican politicians never got behind the navy with support to keep Vieques open, and apparently missed the fact that Roosevelt Roads would close as a result. Moreover, the activists who wanted Vieques closed thought that the bombing range would be cleaned up (unexploded bombs removed) so the area could be bought by developers and tourist facilities built. But cleaning up the old bombs is too expensive, and the Vieques range is being turned over to the Department of the Interior for use as a wildlife refuge. The fence around the range will warn people to keep out, because of hundreds (no one knows exactly how many) unexploded bombs and shells in there. Agitating to get Congress to appropriate billions to clean up the Vieques site is likely to fail, there being so many other more worthy things to do with the money.


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To: pepsionice
The Heraklion airbase is still active. It was used during the recent conflict.
21 posted on 05/14/2003 9:16:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: Porterville
that was beautiful!
22 posted on 05/14/2003 9:16:35 AM PDT by KOZ.
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To: pepsionice
opps forgot to add. Its also why the greeks support an eu army. If they get a few bases thats money in their pockets.
23 posted on 05/14/2003 9:17:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Speaking of world class fools, a few years ago the Phillippine Government didn't renew the 400 million dollar lease for Clark Airforce Base to the U.S. Uh, ok, Clark Airforce Base was closed and operations moved elsewhere. A short time later Mt. Pinatubo blew up. Man oh man, would that EVER have been a good time to have the U.S. there in terms of manpower and lots of money.
24 posted on 05/14/2003 9:18:08 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Billthedrill
the Vieques range is being turned over to the Department of the Interior for use as a wildlife refuge.

From useful to useless in one fell swoop!

25 posted on 05/14/2003 9:20:29 AM PDT by JimRed (Disinformation is the leftist's and enemy's friend; consider the source before believing.)
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To: dfwgator
Yeah! And take all the rum!
26 posted on 05/14/2003 9:23:27 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: SandyInSeattle
There is another angle. It was the NY politcians who stirred up this mess. When things go bad in PR, they leave for NYC and they Vote.
27 posted on 05/14/2003 9:26:58 AM PDT by Broker
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To: budanski
Yet one more object lesson in the principle that if you bite the hand that feeds you, you're liable to wind up with a mouthful of fist.

Not that I expect the loony protesters to grok that simple fact...

-Jay
28 posted on 05/14/2003 9:38:37 AM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Islam: We're a religion of peace and we'll kill you to prove it!)
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To: budanski
good...screw 'em! they can sell sand now!
29 posted on 05/14/2003 9:41:25 AM PDT by God luvs America
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To: budanski
I think I read recently that some protesters destroyed a bunch of vehicles at the base after it was shut down as a final poke in the eye to Uncle Sam. Turns out that the Navy had already donated them to the local government.
30 posted on 05/14/2003 9:42:46 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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To: budanski
Tough.

Perhaps they should become a state.
31 posted on 05/14/2003 9:46:19 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: budanski; FreePaul; All
Don't celebrate the closing of Roosevelt Roads Naval Station just yet. There's another Presidential election coming up in the United States.

U.S. Congressman, Jose Serrano, told ABC's John Stossel that President George Bush will order the Navy to keep Roosevelt Roads Base open, regardless of how useless the Navy says it is.

Got to pander to the Hispanic vote don't you know?

Base Yes, Bombs No: Do Vieques Protesters Want It Both Ways?

As far as the billions required to clean the entire island of Vieques up for the developers, the panderers have that one figured out, too.

Vieques will be declared a 'Super Fund Site' by the EPA's, Christy Todd Whitman.

The Bush Administration will then see to it that as many billions of the U.S. Taxpayer's hard-earned dollars as are necessary are squandered on the clean-up of Vieques.

I doubt the Interior Dept. of the U.S. will own an acre on Vieques in 5 years.

The anti-American, ingrates in Puerto Rico will have the last laugh on the U.S. Taxpayers. They know how to work our system and to pressure our politicians.

Most U.S. Taxpayers don't have a clue.

32 posted on 05/14/2003 9:47:53 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the *Land of Opportunity*, it*s the *Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists*!!!)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Once again, the protesters didn't think through the consequences of their actions.

Do they ever?

33 posted on 05/14/2003 9:50:52 AM PDT by Eala ("We don't see it as a 'quota', we see it as a 'performance standard'")
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To: mabelkitty
"Perhaps they should become a state."

Bite your tongue!

The island's populated with approx. 4 million Leftist/Socialist/Marxist/Liberals that would hand control of the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of our government to the Left for all time.

34 posted on 05/14/2003 9:52:31 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the *Land of Opportunity*, it*s the *Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists*!!!)
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To: Jack of all Trades
LOL

Now that was funny.

35 posted on 05/14/2003 9:56:25 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (I AM the NRA and I VOTE!!!)
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To: budanski
I've said for a few years that this isn't a big loss for the US military, the logical replacement choice should be....

France

36 posted on 05/14/2003 9:57:20 AM PDT by citizen (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: citizen
This is a big loss for the U.S. Taxpayers.

We owned 24,000 acres on Vieques and 11,000 on Puerto Rico at Roosevelt Roads. We've paid for billions of dollars in infrastructure at both installations.

We're going to give it all away for free after the EPA spends billions of dollars more of our money to clean it all up.

I see a lot of FReepers laughing on this thread, but we're the ones that are getting screwed.

37 posted on 05/14/2003 10:09:25 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the *Land of Opportunity*, it*s the *Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists*!!!)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Exactly! These ultra-left wing useful idiots never look beyond the INSTANT GRATIFICATION of their desires being met!!

Geeeee ... isn't that what abortion is all about ...??
38 posted on 05/14/2003 10:20:09 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: SandyInSeattle
I'd say the protestors DID think about what they were doing !

From what I've been able to learn, they were a mix of greedy realtors,vote-hungry politicians, Fidelistas , and other assorted Marxists.

The Marxist contingent wanted the removal of Roosevelt Roads,from which US Naval patrols had run fairly effective interceptions of "cocaine ships", and from which Tio Fidel and his Merrymen could be kept under surveillance.

Now that the Navy has been removed, and money is getting tighter, the Marxists have fertile soil in which to sow their poison - on what is no-passports-required American territory.

For the people - a loss. For the Marxists, a win-win situation !

39 posted on 05/14/2003 12:57:34 PM PDT by genefromjersey (ANCIENT - and HONORABLE ( After a fashion ))
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To: Billthedrill
What part of Guam? Polaris point? NAS? Naval Station? Anderson AFB? Naval Communications station? Naval Weapons station?
40 posted on 05/14/2003 1:03:05 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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