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Park's Pot Problem Explodes (Mex. cartels linked to Mideast Terrorists)
L.A. Times ^ | 5-14-03 | Julie Cart

Posted on 05/14/2003 6:05:31 AM PDT by txdoda

SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, Calif. — On the brink of the summer tourist season, officials here are confronting an ominous reality — multimillion-dollar stands of marijuana tended by armed growers who have menaced visitors, killed wildlife, polluted streams and trashed pristine countryside.

The pot fields are financed by the Mexican drug cartels that dominate the methamphetamine trade in the adjacent Central Valley, drug enforcement officials say. The officials say there is evidence that the cartels, in turn, have financial ties to Middle Eastern smugglers linked to Hezbollah and other groups accused of terrorism.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: addiction; disisyourbrainondope; illegalimmigration; thisisyourbrain; usparks; warondrugs; waronterror; wodlist
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1 posted on 05/14/2003 6:05:32 AM PDT by txdoda
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To: madfly
fyi
2 posted on 05/14/2003 6:24:31 AM PDT by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: txdoda
So a little pot will be OK. Now you can't go to a park not because some locals have a small farm, but because the guys from Mexico and Columbia are not happy with just coke.
3 posted on 05/14/2003 6:30:33 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: txdoda
txdoda

seems to me someone posted an article followed a by a couple of links to an azatlan group in california. some follow up on the posts showed pictures of these guys in the middle east posing with some hezbollah terrorists in lebanon

it would be way cool if we could find those links at free republic
4 posted on 05/14/2003 6:34:00 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: txdoda
txdoda

seems to me someone posted an article followed a by a couple of links to an azatlan group in california. some follow up on the posts showed pictures of these guys in the middle east posing with some hezbollah terrorists in lebanon

it would be way cool if we could find those links at free republic
5 posted on 05/14/2003 6:34:00 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: txdoda
LOL!! The doughnut-gobblers figure it's all Mexican cartels and Hezbollah!! HAHAHA!!

What a bunch of punks. Incompetent punks.
6 posted on 05/14/2003 6:48:09 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
It doesn't make much sense. Mafias are local. They may have come from Mexico, but that's like saying Billy and Whitey Bulger mean the Boston mob is controlled from Ireland.

And the Hezbolla thing is just wild ass propagandizing. I would not be suprised to find WoD media payola involved in this paper and/or reporter. You have to buy credulity this pure.
7 posted on 05/14/2003 7:05:40 AM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
C'mon, its the new party line. Pure BS. Bring on the harvest!
8 posted on 05/14/2003 7:07:14 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie; jmc813; *Wod_list
I think someone is crasping fro straws in this article

I say we stop funding these terrorist cells, and take the profit out of it immediately.

Re-legalize now, and stop the madness......
9 posted on 05/14/2003 7:16:07 AM PDT by vin-one (I wish i had something clever to put in this tag)
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To: eno_
What possible motivation would Mexican pot growers have to pass on their profits to Muslim terrorists? Let's face it, pot growers are in business for the money, not ideology. They need a strong and prosperous America so that Americans have disposable income to buy their pot.

Financing Muslim terrorists would work against pot growers in many ways, by directly reducing their profits and by harming the economy of the buyers. So I am inclined to assign this pot/terrorism linkage to the pure BS category too.

10 posted on 05/14/2003 7:24:28 AM PDT by Sender
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To: eno_
"You have to buy credulity this pure."

Or, you can manufacture it in the public schools and reap the benefits of scale.
11 posted on 05/14/2003 7:40:59 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Sender
there's a revolutionary group called aztlan.com. They want to break off the US southwest from the rest of the USA. these folk would get their bread and butter by serving as hired guns for the south american narcos. Lebanon is also a conduit for all kinds of drugs. Finally the hezbollah is iranian supported. the iranian clerics would pay people to undermine the usa. In short, we're looking at a great similarity of interests.

there have been pictures posted at free republic of the aztlan group posing with hezbollah in lebanon. likely they do business.
12 posted on 05/14/2003 7:41:11 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: txdoda
Joseph Farah


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25337


America's 'Palestinians'




© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com


President Bush says he wants to see a Palestinian state carved out of Israel.

He may be surprised some day soon when that statement and his recent actions in support of it come back to bite him.

Why?

Activists who see themselves as "America's Palestinians" are gearing up a movement to carve out of the southwestern United States – a region (called Aztlan) including all of Bush's home state of Texas – a sovereign Hispanic state called the Republica del Norte.

The leaders of this movement are meeting continuously with extremists from the Islamic world, and you can read for yourself how they have been inspired by the Palestinian cause, and even adopted the most vicious forms of anti-Semitism in the process, by reading their own words on their own website.

"There are great similarities between the political and economic condition of the Palestinians in occupied Palestine and that of La Raza in the southwest United States," explains an editorial from earlier this year in La Voz de Aztlan in Los Angeles, the city seen as the future capital of the new Hispanic state.

Los Angeles, you see, is the southwestern U.S. version of Jerusalem.

Ridiculous? It didn't go unnoticed among the Aztlan activists when Los Angeles Mayor James Hahn told Mexico's President Vincente Fox last week, referring to Los Angeles: "Our city is a Mexican city."

The editorial goes on to draw analogies between the Arab uprising in Israel and gang violence in Los Angeles. It's the same thing, the activists claim. This is not crime and punishment, according to the La Raza (literally, "The Race") activists, this is the birth of an independence movement by young Hispanics.

"The similarities are many," says the editorial. "The primary one, of course, is the fact that both La Raza and the Palestinians have been displaced by invaders that have utilized military means to conquer and occupy our territories. The takeover of our respective lands by foreign elements occurred 100 years apart. For La Raza, it happened in 1848 when Mexico lost the southwest at the end of the Mexican-American war and the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidlago. For the Palestinians, it occurred in 1948 when the Zionist Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum and signed the 'Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel' on the day in which the British Mandate over Palestine expired."

Are you getting the picture?

This idiotic movement takes on special meaning, however, after Sept. 11.

There is a growing body of evidence to suggest terrorists have used America's unpatrolled, unguarded borders with Mexico and Canada to infiltrate our country and to bring in arms and munitions. It's about time the American people learned there is an organized fifth column of U.S. activists who would be only too glad to assist Islamic terrorists in their jihad against the Yankee imperialists. This is an alliance long in the making.

But please keep in mind what I am telling you today. This is not a column about illegal aliens. This is not a column about problems with the border. This is not a column about how our culture is being changed by mass migration. This is a story about a movement to create a new state within the borders of the continental United States.

And the logic and rationale for this movement is the same logic and rationale (if you can call it that) being employed to make the case for a Palestinian state. Americans need to understand this argument can and will be used against them – soon.

Fidel Castro has, not surprisingly, lent his support to this independence movement. California politicians pay lip service to it and kowtow to its demands. It may seem irrelevant. It may seem innocuous. It may seem like little more than an annoyance. But today – after Sept. 11 – it represents a national security threat.

Meanwhile, President Bush ignores this budding "intifada" in his own back yard and chooses, instead, to tell the Israelis they must carve up their own tiny state to make a homeland for dangerous radicals who want only to destroy them.

And remember, these independence movements are never really about the creation of autonomous states. Instead, they are diversionary movements designed, ultimately, to destroy existing states – in the Middle East, Israel and in the West, the United States of America.





13 posted on 05/14/2003 7:42:31 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: q_an_a
Legalize it and take their profits and motivation away....
14 posted on 05/14/2003 7:46:59 AM PDT by Texaggie79 (pimps up, hoes down!)
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To: txdoda
The pot fields are financed by the Mexican drug cartels that dominate the methamphetamine trade in the adjacent Central Valley, drug enforcement officials say. The officials say there is evidence that the cartels, in turn, have financial ties to Middle Eastern smugglers linked to Hezbollah and other groups accused of terrorism.

And for the rest of the story, Officials here say they need billions of dollars to fight the evil devei weed branch of Al Qaida.

15 posted on 05/14/2003 7:47:09 AM PDT by thepitts (Hell hath no fury like vested interest masquerading as a moral principle!!)
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To: ckilmer
I see what you mean. But these are not pot growers per se, the Aztlan types are driven by ideology and not pot money. So I could believe that group might have a similarity of interest with other anti-American groups.
16 posted on 05/14/2003 7:51:28 AM PDT by Sender
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WOD Ping
17 posted on 05/14/2003 8:10:38 AM PDT by jmc813 (The average citizen in Baghdad,right now, has more firearm rights than anyone in our country.)
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To: vin-one
You're probably right, as pot is used today as much or more than ever and the only way it will be 'cleansed' (word of the day) from society is by destroying the Preamble and Bill of Rights...which simply isn't worth it. Look what damage the feds have created to our freedoms, unchecked, some in the name "War on Drugs". If they get real serious about it, we will have a dire situation in America. The prozac-stoners are no more dangerous than the drunks; maybe safer.
18 posted on 05/14/2003 8:11:03 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Sender
You don't have to read the wires with 100% attention to not be able to find pot money connected/mixed in with large international arms shipments and money laundering. The "War on Drugs" has made many law-abiding Americans -participating in normal, private affairs - now criminals (I realized a long time ago that innocent-til-proven-guilty is not a federal concept).
19 posted on 05/14/2003 8:14:42 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: Sender
I see what you mean. But these are not pot growers per se, the Aztlan types are driven by ideology and not pot money.
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true but people have to earn a living
drugs are the trade of choice for columbian and peruvian guerellla groups
20 posted on 05/14/2003 8:15:28 AM PDT by ckilmer
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