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To: kattracks
These clowns can't see the forest for the trees.

What is needed is a real, serious forensic analysis of why the obesity rate has gone up, and IMHO the "lo-fat" mantra, along with the infamous FDA food pyramid, will be seen to be the ultimate causal factor.

It is hard to get outside your head when "society" repeats things so much that those "things" become undisputed fact.

There are *NO* undisputed facts in this world, just beliefs and tentative assumptions which we painfully eke out from experience.

I've been fat all my life and my experience tells me that ATKINS was pretty much on the mark, but the cow-mind, pushed along by the food-grain interests, keep the lo-carb theory from public popular acceptance...

16 posted on 05/14/2003 5:26:47 AM PDT by chilepepper (Clever argument cannot convince Reality -- Carl Jung)
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To: All
A lot of people are overweight because:

1. Too much TV/computer and too little exercise.
2. Food portions that are WAY too big.

Next time you're eating out, take a look at the size of the servings that the waiter brings. Here in Texas, most Mexican food restaurants (which we ALL love and visit regularly)serve huge orders on platters! There's enough in one serving for three people...if you're eating sensibly. We all stuff it down, pay, then waddle out. Only to wander into the kitchen three hours later for a "snack". No wonder we're all obese!
18 posted on 05/14/2003 5:36:05 AM PDT by Maria S
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To: chilepepper
Portion size is a big culprit. Have you noticed the size of the average dinner plate, for example? They used to be 8". Now they're 10" And many folks fill up that space.
23 posted on 05/14/2003 5:43:53 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: chilepepper
YES! Scrap that damn food pyramid! {{Applause}}
25 posted on 05/14/2003 5:45:20 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (<--- Overweight after 6 babies, but working on it :-))
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To: chilepepper
What is needed is a real, serious forensic analysis of why the obesity rate has gone up, and IMHO the "lo-fat" mantra, along with the infamous FDA food pyramid, will be seen to be the ultimate causal factor.

I agree. I was always an average weight not skinny but certainly not fat until I started doing the food pyramid. I've recently cut out most carbs and the pounds are coming off. That being said, I'd never consider suing the golden Arches or to keep Oreo's off the shelf.

36 posted on 05/14/2003 6:37:28 AM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: chilepepper
"I've been fat all my life and my experience tells me that ATKINS was pretty much on the mark, but the cow-mind, pushed along by the food-grain interests, keep the lo-carb theory from public popular acceptance..."

I have been sticking with Atkins since Easter Sunday and I have dropped fifteen pounds and I feel vastly better. Most of my old aches and pains have disappeared. I love bread but I may go the rest of my life without it, I really believe wheat products were causing my fluid accumulation and soreness.

41 posted on 05/14/2003 8:09:17 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Mercy on a pore boy lemme have a dollar bill!)
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To: chilepepper
What is needed is a real, serious forensic analysis of why the obesity rate has gone up, and IMHO the "lo-fat" mantra, along with the infamous FDA food pyramid, will be seen to be the ultimate causal factor.

Well, the changing definition of "obesity" is a pretty good place to start with explaining why the obesity rate has increased...

42 posted on 05/14/2003 8:12:12 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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