[WhiskeyPapa]

Let me ask you a question Walt, go back to the last Presidential election and pretend just for a moment that the U.S. split into two sides because of the Election fiasco. One side is Bush supporters the other side Gore supporters, the next thing you know there's a war. Which side is right, which side is wrong?

For any one side to be "right" to disavow the outcome of an election., you'd have to show intolerable abuse of the system.

The problem for the "heritage" defenders is that in 1860, there had been no such abuse. The rebels tried to break up the government -they- had controlled for decades simply because a free election, held in accordance with the rules agreed to by all, had not gone the way they wanted.

You need to think about that, and -then- see if you can consider Lee, Jackson, or -any- of the rebels as heroes. If you do consider the real events in their proper context, you won't call Lee a hero any more.

Walt

[jgrubbs]

Where is the "Ignore Walt" button on the FR site?

[HELLRAISER II]

The United States Govt. intervened continuously in the Souths business and what for? It was all about the money, the Federal Govt. wanted it and we in the South thought that was Horse $hit and we didn't like it a bit. So we did something about it, Slavery was simply an afterthought of the war it was all about economics. Uncle Sam continues to screw everyone even to this day, give me a tax cut & i'll keep my heros thank you very much.

[John O]

The problem for the "heritage" defenders is that in 1860, there had been no such abuse. The rebels tried to break up the government -they- had controlled for decades simply because a free election, held in accordance with the rules agreed to by all, had not gone the way they wanted.

As was their right. The government derives it's authority from the consent of the people it governs. When those people no longer consent they should be allowed to leave. The vast majority of the south no longer consented. Why was the north so keen to force them to remain at gunpoint? The north broke the union. (and I was born and raised in Wisconsin)