[VMI70]

Click on "Richmond's Morning News with Jimmy Barrett" which is on the upper left hand side of the page, and there you will find a small story and a poll(hint).

Scout Executive Director, Robert A. Tuggle 804-204-2611 atuggle@relcbsa.org (another hint)

Tuggle was interviewed this morning by Jimmy Barret, and judging by his responses to Barrett's questions, Tuggle gives a whole new meaning to the term "jellyfish".

They are soliciting suggestions for new names. I am sure many FReepers would have some great suggestions, so be sure to email them to Mr. Tuggle: atuggle@relcbsa.org

I guess mine will be "Ulysses S. Grant"

Below is the Scout Law. I wonder how the Robert E. Lee Council Directors who voted for the change measure up:

A Scout Director is:

trustworthy? - not very

loyal? - not

helpful? - not

friendly? - maybe

courteous? - maybe

kind? - not

obedient? - not

cheerful? - maybe

thrifty? - maybe

brave? - definitely not

clean? - maybe

reverent? - not

It's a sad commentary, isn't it?

[Huck]

How about George Washington?

[jgrubbs]

The Christian General Bump!

[RonF]

Has the Robert E. Lee Council been involved in a Council merger? The BSA has been merging together it's smaller local Councils into larger ones to consolidate staffs and save money (or to enable them to increase the number of lower-level staff to provide more service). It's common to give the new Council a different name from the either of the older ones. Is that the case here?

[stainlessbanner]

The Governor of Virginia was asked by General Lee, “What will they think of the country?” (after the implied surrender).

The Governor replied, “My God, General Lee, you are the country to these men.”

[putupon]

Naw, the PC leftist Yankees just came down here and shoved that stinkin' Linkin' statue up our arses at Trededgar, they'll find some court somewhere to make them change the name to Linkin Scouts too.

[Yardstick]

My mother went to Robert E. Lee Elementary School in Baton Rouge (1950's). I wonder how many southern schools were given General Lee's name, and I wonder how many have kept it.

[Corin Stormhands]

I heard this yesterday and am dismayed. They say it's for "marketing" purposes, but they have caved to political correctness.

My oldest son is no longer in scouting. My youngest will probably do the scouting program our church has. But I'll hang on to my den leader's uniform and my R.E. Lee Council patches...

[UPcrawfish]

Another PC stake in the heart of History !
Councils are named for a significant event / person / geographic uniqueness. Go to the website and read Tuggles fluff on his pride in Scouting..

Robert E. Lee Council website
http://www.relcbsa.org/

[stainlessbanner]

LEE's DEFINITION OF A GENTLEMAN

"The forbearing use of power does not only form a touchstone, but the manner in which an individual enjoys certain advantages over others is a test of a true gentleman.

The power which the strong have over the weak, the employer over the employed, the educated over the unlettered, the experienced over the confiding, even the clever over the silly-the forbearing or inoffensive use of all this power or authority, or a total abstinence from it when the case admits it, will show the gentleman in a plain light.

The gentleman does not needlessly and unnecessarily remind an offender of a wrong he may have committed against him. He cannot only forgive, he can forget; and he strives for that nobleness of self and mildness of character which impart sufficient strength to let the past be but the past. A true man of honor feels humbled himself when he cannot help humbling others."

--Robert E. Lee

[davisfh]

"Robert E. Lee Boy Scout Council, Richmond, VA, to be Renamed. More PC for the Boy Scouts..."

I've got it! Why not rename it "Pewee Herman Boy Scout Council?"

[WSGilcrest]

My suggestion:

The Ernest Thompson Seton Council of the Boy Scouts of America.

[Destro]

That's what happenes to a conquered people.

[Shooter 2.5]

What's the big deal?

Name the council after someone who did something for Scouting and be done with it.

[azcap]

[LouD]

"I am now considered such a monster, that I hesitate to darken with my shadow, the doors of those I love, lest I should bring upon them misfortune."

- Robert E. Lee, after his surrender at Appomattox in 1865.

Too bad the climate of political correctness run amuck has left us unable to appreciate Lee's qualities, simply because, by accident of birth, he owed his allegiance to Virginia and the Confederacy. The revisionist evaluation of historical figures using contemporary standards is appalling - and far too many people lack sufficient historical knowledge to evaluate a complex figure like Lee in historical context.

[mass55th]

I say call it the Taliban Chapter or the Saddam Hussein Chapter. Either way, the people who pushed to get the name changed were more than likely against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and like the Taliban and Saddam, are out to destroy the heritage of a group of people.

[VMI70]

Ping

[CatoRenasci]

Thanks for the ping Brother Rat. It's very, very sad, but what can you expect these days. Even in Richmond!

Anyway, my best for New Market Day on Thursday! In my heart, I'll be marching down Letcher Avenue playing Dixie as we pass Virginia Mourning Her Dead.

[drq]

How about Meriwether Lewis (1774 - 1809) and William Clark (1770 - 1838) Led a famous expedition to the Pacific ocean; both born in Virginia. Personally, I think they represent the spirit of the Boy Scouts better than General Lee. From a humble member of the Simon Kenton Council in Ohio.

[HIDEK6]

How about the "Stonewall Jackson Council?"