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The gun control debate
Washington Times ^
| Tuesday, May 13, 2003
| John R. Lott Jr.
Posted on 05/12/2003 10:40:17 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:03:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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President Bush recently received rave reviews from what appeared an unlikely source
(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...
TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist
To: bang_list
BANG!
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posted on
05/12/2003 10:42:57 PM PDT
by
kAcknor
To: JohnHuang2
Maryland has some of the tightest gun control laws in the country but Baltimore is the murder capital of the USA. Wonder why? well, for starters, hardly anyone has guns but the criminals.
And about Bush and his stance for the continued ban: As mucn as I like Bush, he's a politician, and part of the governing elite, which includes folks of both main parties. And those folks have a hard time trusting us ordinary motals. They know we have rights, but don't want us to have them. They know we have a right to bear arms, but they are afraid of us. All of us. The government, any government is NOT our friend. Oh sure, we pretend it is, and vote, and root for our favorite guy, but governments can't be trusted. That's why our founding fathers enumerated our God given rights. And that's why politicians have tried to strip us of those rights ever since.
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posted on
05/12/2003 11:00:46 PM PDT
by
FirstTomato
(Sometimes my mind wanders off, and has a hard time finding its way back.)
To: FirstTomato
make that "ordinary mortals. I don't know what a "motal" is.
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posted on
05/12/2003 11:02:43 PM PDT
by
FirstTomato
(Sometimes my mind wanders off, and has a hard time finding its way back.)
To: kAcknor; *bang_list
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posted on
05/13/2003 6:21:53 AM PDT
by
Free the USA
(Stooge for the Rich)
To: FirstTomato
Why can a state pass a law tougher then federal law?
The states that have tried to pass laws making use of marijuana legal for things have had these laws stopped by the federal government. The federal government said the states could not do this because the federal law is marijuana is illegal to have.
So if a state cannot pass a law lesser then federal law. Why can a state pass laws making something illegal such as some guns? When the federal government states these guns are legal to own. Should not the same be true? Shouldn't the federal government be stepping in telling these states that have passed gun control laws banning some guns they cannot do this? After all the federal government states these gun are legal. If a state cannot pass a law saying something is legal that the federal government has declared illegal. Should not it work the other way?
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posted on
05/13/2003 7:39:43 AM PDT
by
DHard3006
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posted on
05/13/2003 7:44:03 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(http://www.joebrower.com/)
To: kAcknor
Bump....
To: JohnHuang2
I'm a firm believer in proper gun control.
- Firm grip with both hands.
- Always aware of what is beyond the intended target.
- Never pointing it at anything you don't intend to shoot.
- Squeezing the trigger, not pulling it.
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posted on
05/13/2003 7:50:00 AM PDT
by
AFreeBird
To: JohnHuang2
I wonder if the left, and certain treasonous members of government, are planning to make their big move next year.
To: FirstTomato
Bush, he's a politician, and part of the governing elite, which includes folks of both main parties. And those folks have a hard time trusting us ordinary motals. They know we have rights, but don't want us to have them. They know we have a right to bear arms, but they are afraid of us. All of us. The government, any government is NOT our friend. Oh sure, we pretend it is, and vote, and root for our favorite guy, but governments can't be trusted. That's why our founding fathers enumerated our God given rights. And that's why politicians have tried to strip us of those rights ever since. Right in the ten ring.......
To: Free the USA
What can I say... Typo's happen at 2 AM. ;)
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posted on
05/13/2003 8:00:19 AM PDT
by
kAcknor
To: DHard3006
It has something to do with the 10th Amendment...although the Fed and the states have no problem trampling over any of them on a regular basis...and the Fed uses blackmail to coerce the states into legislation that should be solely the right of the states (withholding Federal highway money...etc).
To: JohnHuang2
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To: Free the USA
If what you are saying is true why cannot a state pass racist laws or laws based on sex. As the some states did prior to the civil rights movement.
To: JohnHuang2
President Clinton, who signed the 1994 assault weapon ban into law, complained in 1998 that gun manufacturers have been able to continue selling the banned guns simply by changing the guns' names or by making the necessary cosmetic changes. ...Presumably, the purpose of limiting a law to a set period is to test it and to see if it lives up to its promises. The bans have been in effect for almost a decade, but there is still no evidence that they produced any benefits. If anything, there might well have been some small harm.
And the "point" is, ....
THIS LAW DID NOT WORK.
If the gun grabbers want to "change" it, or make it stricter, or include "new" restrictions,....
Let them Introduce a NEW BILL, and Start Over.
The AW ban should be allowed to sunset, as it was a bad law, that did not achieve it's purpose.
Attempting to make the AW ban permanent is a blatant stab at using an existing law as a "foot in the door".
I believe this is the same tactic that was used in California, isn't it?
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posted on
05/13/2003 12:48:42 PM PDT
by
Drammach
To: JohnHuang2
bang!
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