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Was the Pied Piper of Hamelin a child molester?
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Posted on 05/12/2003 2:15:16 PM PDT by Sir Gawain

Was the Pied Piper of Hamelin a child molester?

31-Dec-2002


Dear Straight Dope:

I was recently reading A World Lit Only by Fire (1992) by William Manchester.  In it he makes a passing reference to the Pied Piper of Hamelin. According to Manchester the piper was a psychopath and a pederast who was involved in some sort of mass child killing. I realize that many of our children's stories are based on real events, many of them sinister and certainly not the type of thing you would want to lull your child to sleep with, but this seems especially grim. I was wondering if this was true, and if so what's the whole story? --S. Johnson, Dallas TX

SDSTAFF Eutychus replies:

The quote in question comes from page 66 of Manchester's book and reads :

"The Pied Piper of Hamelin . . . was a real man, but there was nothing enchanting about him. Quite the opposite; he was horrible, a psychopath and pederast who, on June 24, 1484, spirited away 130 children in the Saxon village of Hammel and used them in unspeakable ways. Accounts of the aftermath vary. According to some, the victims were never seen again; others told of disembodied little bodies found scattered in the forest underbrush or festooning the branches of trees."

Manchester doesn't footnote this passage and although he does give a long bibliography at the end of the book, the reader can't readily determine where he got it. The official website of the German town of Hamelin makes no mention of it, which is no surprise, since they still make a ton of hay on the legend and have an official town "Pied Piper" to this day. Our own research suggests that Manchester got some of the details wrong--among other things, he appears to be off about 200 years on the date. But he didn't just make the whole thing up. 

The legend of the Pied Piper has probably as many variants as it does tellers. The most popular versions derive from the poem by Robert Browning and the fairy tale by the Brothers Grimm. In pretty much all versions, rats infest Hamelin and the town hires a traveling rat catcher to exterminate them. When he does so, the king, mayor, or whoever decides not to pay him, so he extracts his revenge by spiriting away the town's children. This is where the different versions of the tale begin to diverge. Some say that the children were just taken to a nearby cave and never seen again. In other versions, the cave is actually a tunnel leading to Transylvania. The most popular versions have the piper taking the kids into a mountainside from which they are taken to a land where they will be happy away from the cruel adults for the rest of their lives. Some versions add a little lame boy who is denied entrance because of his disability. The Disney version magically cures the little lame boy and the children are transported to a magical wonderland full of merry-go-rounds and candy and gumdrops and other things that don't promote good dental hygiene.

Rats were a definite problem for German towns, including Hamelin. Whether the problem was so extreme that they would hire a rat catcher is unknown.  According to medical historian Stanley Aronson, rats were more of an annoyance than an actual health hazard until the mid 1300s. They were known for burrowing into grain and other human food supplies, but "were also destructive of wooden structures and clothing and would occasionally attack sleeping young children." There was a bounty on dead rats in some German town and rat tails briefly became a form of urban currency. The real problem began in 1347 when a ship from Asia docked in Sicily carrying many stowaway black rats. Although rats on ships were common enough, these rats carried with them a disease then endemic to Central Asia--the bubonic plague that came to be known as the Black Death.

But that was far in the future for Hamelin. The Pied Piper story goes back earlier and seems to have its root in an event that happened on June 26, 1284. Hamelin historian Martin Humberg states that around 1300 a stained glass window was added to the central market church in Hamelin showing "an old figure of a man in colored clothes and surrounded by a crowd of children." The inscription around this window has been reconstructed and reads:

In the year of 1284, on John's and Paul's day
was the 26th of June.
By a piper, dressed in all kind of colors,
130 children born in Hamelin were seduced
and lost at the calvarie near the koppen.

Scholars disagree on the meaning of "the calvarie near the koppen" but most agree that it refers to a place of execution near an as yet undetermined hill. There are many other references to the story in Hamelin itself, including a street named "Bungelosen Strasse," literally "the street without the sound of drums," allegedly so named because dancing was forbidden in that street in memory of what had happened to the children.

Taken at face value, the inscription suggests that Manchester was right--130 kids came to a bad end at the hands of a deviant. But there is no corroborating record of any mass execution of children in the vicinity of Hamelin, which would seem to be an important event if it really happened. The window with the inscription was replaced in 1660 and is now lost, so we're relying strictly on secondary evidence and not much of that. From what I can determine there's no factual basis for Manchester's lurid tale of "disembodied little bodies [presumably he means 'dismembered'] found scattered in the forest underbrush or festooning the branches of trees."

The earliest versions of the tale make no mention of the piper's skill as a rat catcher--that part of the story doesn't show up in literature until about 1550. It appears that the final tale was a mixture of the true story of whatever happened to the children in Hamelin plus various European rat catcher legends. Stories of an itinerant rat catcher similar to the one in Hamelin show up in Austria, France, Poland, Denmark, England, and Ireland. Duke Froben von Zimmern (1556) was the first to put the legends together into the tale we know today. Fifty years later Richard Verstegan was the first to tell the tale in English and introduce the name "The Pied Piper" in his book A Restitution of Decayed Intelligence.

But there is still too much speculation and not enough evidence to say what actually happened to the children of Hamelin in 1284. A typical conjecture: "The Pied Piper was a charismatic leader who, in the eyes of the ecclesiastical as well as secular authorities, misled a group of young people in a revival of pagan worship. He and his group were therefore captured and killed." Cite, please? The Black Death has also been mentioned as a possible suspect, although the plague post-dated most of the legends and would have affected adults as well as children. Earthquakes and the Children's Crusade have also been mentioned as possibilities, but are far from convincing.

One currently popular interpretation comes from Jurgen Udolph and focuses on the variant that the children emerged from the cave either in Transylvania or somewhere in eastern Europe. Udolph believes that the phrase "children of Hamelin" should be interpreted figuratively and not literally. He thinks the tale may refer to an eastward migration of people from Hamelin into the area between Berlin and the Baltic. The theory has root in German historian Wolfgang Wann's conjecture that Bruno von Schaumburg, who was then Bishop of Olmutz, recruited some residents of Hamelin to settle in Moravia. This would have happened in 1281, three years before the date in question.

Udolph rejects this particular idea but thinks something along the same lines may have occurred. He uses place names to fortify his speculation, on the theory that people who relocate to a new land tend to name their new homes after the places they came from. Therefore, it should be possible to trace new settlements by establishing the origins of their names. In an article in Time International, Ursula Sautter reports:

"After the defeat of the Danes at the Battle of Bornhoved in 1227," explains Udolph, "the region south of the Baltic Sea, which was then inhabited by Slavs, became available for colonization by the Germans." The bishops and dukes of Pomerania, Brandenburg, Uckermark and Prignitz sent out glib "locators," medieval recruitment officers, offering rich rewards to those who were willing to move to the new lands. Thousands of young adults from Lower Saxony and Westphalia headed east. And as evidence, about a dozen Westphalian place names show up in this area. Indeed there are five villages called Hindenburg running in a straight line from Westphalia to Pomerania, as well as three eastern Spiegelbergs and a trail of etymology from Beverungen south of Hamelin to Beveringen northwest of Berlin to Beweringen in modern Poland.

I like Udolph's explanation. Like most legends, the Pied Piper story most likely has its origin in something more prosaic than fantastic. But the fantastic does make a much better fairy tale.

Sources:

Christoph Wilkening, "The Pied Piper of Hamelin--Germany's Mystery of Missing Children," World and I, August 2000, p. 178

Ursula Sautter, "Fairy Tale Ending." Time International, April 27, 1998, p. 58.

Stanley Aronson, "A Tale of Rats, Plagues, Pipers and People." Providence Journal, October 28, 2002

Machester, William, A World Lit Only by Fire, 1992.

Jonas Kuhn's Pied Piper Homepage (www.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~jonas/piedpiper.html)

Hamelin Information : The Pied Piper Legend (www.hameln.com/english /info/pied_piper_of_hamlin.htm)

--SDSTAFF Eutychus
Straight Dope Science Advisory Board

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1 posted on 05/12/2003 2:15:16 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Billthedrill; Cyber Liberty; dead; Victoria Delsoul; Fiddlstix; Focault's Pendulum; glock rocks; ...
Interesting stuff
2 posted on 05/12/2003 2:16:00 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Kil-lin' is my bid-ness, lay dees. And bid-ness is goooood.)
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To: Sir Gawain
Bump to self.
3 posted on 05/12/2003 2:16:26 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Sir Gawain
I prefer my version.
4 posted on 05/12/2003 2:19:02 PM PDT by ditto h
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To: Sir Gawain
According to Manchester the piper was a psychopath and a pederast

Geez. Wonder what wanted all the rats for?

5 posted on 05/12/2003 2:19:15 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Sir Gawain
It wasn't me. I have an alibi.

Actually, I always thought it was a near-historical memory of events surrounding the Children's Crusade of 1213AD. Not sure just where I got that idea, though...probably just an accident of dating.

6 posted on 05/12/2003 2:21:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Sir Gawain
Let me tell you the TRUE story of Goldilocks and the three bears.
7 posted on 05/12/2003 2:23:26 PM PDT by ditto h
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To: Sir Gawain
Rats were a definite problem for German towns...

Rats are a definite problem in every town in America. DemonRats, that is.

8 posted on 05/12/2003 2:26:36 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((Resist the Leftist Media Brainwashing Machine)))
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To: Sir Gawain
Interesting. I just finished a novel by Ann Benson, half of which was based on a true character by the name of Gilles de Rais, a nobleman who fought alongside Joan de Arc but later confessed to killing over 200 children, mostly boys, after sodomizing them and disemboweling them. I was able to find his story in several places on line that corrorborate the major parts of her novel. He was executed by hanging after a full confession to avoid torture by the Inquisition (NO one expects the Inquisition!)
9 posted on 05/12/2003 2:28:11 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: Sir Gawain; Jim Robinson
The moral of our story:

If a man...

...reduces the threat to you caused by 'Rats...

...PAY HIM! <|:)~

10 posted on 05/12/2003 2:31:22 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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er, PAY HIM!
11 posted on 05/12/2003 2:33:32 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Cachelot
According to Manchester the piper was a psychopath and a pederast

Today he would be reveared as a well educated man who is a victim of a society abducted by aliens and living on the repression of supressed memories of a past life !

12 posted on 05/12/2003 2:34:40 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (***If you decide not to choose you still have made a choice***)
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To: Sir Gawain
Man, I LOVE the Straight Dope!
13 posted on 05/12/2003 2:35:52 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
Somehow I knew you would find this thread.
14 posted on 05/12/2003 2:37:04 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Kil-lin' is my bid-ness, lay dees. And bid-ness is goooood.)
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To: Sir Gawain
There's a great stained glass window of the Pied Piper at the Armstrong Browning Library at Baylor. I saw it when I gave a lecture there. Here's a rather tiny picture of it:


15 posted on 05/12/2003 2:38:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sir Gawain
"There was a bounty on dead rats in some German town and rat tails briefly became a form of urban currency."

Wonder if that is the origin of the saying, "I don't give a rat's a$$"?

I don't give a "damm" is about a coin, isn't it?

16 posted on 05/12/2003 2:40:13 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Spyder
True story. Gilles de Rais was the "Marquis de Sade", from whence we get our modern word "sadism", for sexual cruelty. This guy did deserve all the torture the Inqusition could muster - too bad they gave him the easy out.
17 posted on 05/12/2003 2:40:36 PM PDT by egarvue (Martin Sheen is not my president...)
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To: Sir Gawain
Of course I would - it's for the children, after all!
18 posted on 05/12/2003 2:44:09 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Sir Gawain
I like the notion that the historical persons behind the Pied Piper legend were real estate promoters.

;^)
19 posted on 05/12/2003 2:49:52 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: egarvue
Gilles de Rais was the "Marquis de Sade"

Check again - the sources I find separate them by several centuries. I did find a few comments that de Rais was also known as "Bluebeard."

20 posted on 05/12/2003 2:56:37 PM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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