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To: Zavien Doombringer
freedom of religion doesn't mean a state run religion. It means you can worship rocks if you want to.

I fully agree. But that's freedom of religion, a close but separate issue. My question was about freedom from religion.

You stated there is no freedom from religion. In that case, it would seem that the government wouldn't be violating your rights if it imposed religion on you.

For example, if there was no freedom from religion, government could make it illegal to skip church on Sunday, or eat non-kosher foods, or trim your beard, or require females in public to wear a burka and still not violate anyone's rights.

It's exceedingly clear those would violate rights, so it holds there is freedom from religion, no?

66 posted on 05/12/2003 9:48:30 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: freeeee
The expression, Freedom from religion means; If I want to pray in school, it means there isn't a law prohibiting me from it. If a school Principle doesn't like me praying in school, legally he cannot touch me. If the school all of a sudden enforced Penticostal Holiness traditions in the classroon I would have to use my 1st Admendment right. But if a Penticostal Holiness attender wants to practice his/her faith, you must let them!
67 posted on 05/12/2003 9:52:32 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: freeeee
You stated there is no freedom from religion. In that case, it would seem that the government wouldn't be violating your rights if it imposed religion on you.

But the Constitution also prohibits the establishment of a state religion.

Like it or not, EVERYONE in the U.S. has been assigned a religion. Either by themselves or the government. Those who profess no religion at all or denounce all religion are assigned to be athiests/secularists/humanists. The Supreme Court has determined that athiesm is a "religion" and therefore protected by the First Amendment.

81 posted on 05/12/2003 10:07:02 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: freeeee; Zavien Doombringer
freedom of religion doesn't mean a state run religion. It means you can worship rocks if you want to.

I fully agree. But that's freedom of religion, a close but separate issue. My question was about freedom from religion.

You stated there is no freedom from religion. In that case, it would seem that the government wouldn't be violating your rights if it imposed religion on you.

No offense, but that is some convoluted logic. You understand that the only thing the much misquoted Amendment I refers to is; Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So there is no chance or reason to ever fear that happening, if you were serious.

87 posted on 05/12/2003 10:11:59 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Press Secret; Of 2 million Shiite pilgrims, only 3000 chanted anti Americanisms--source-Islamonline!)
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