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A New Muslim Country (On the future of France)
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | May 12, 2003 | Guy Milliere

Posted on 05/12/2003 3:22:39 AM PDT by Tarsk

A New Muslim Country

By Guy Milliere

FrontPageMagazine.com | May 12, 2003

The Muslim Brotherhood is a forbidden movement in Egypt where it was born. It is a forbidden movement in the rest of the Arab-Muslim world. All the specialists speak of it as a dangerous, integrist Muslim movement that has only one aim: to take the political power and to impose Sharia, the Islamic law to whole countries.

In France, it’s different: the Muslim Brotherhood can exist officially. Under its French name, Union of Islamic Organizations in France (UOIF), it is even an important part of the French Muslim council recently created by the French government. You might think the Muslim Brotherhood goes forward by partly hiding what it wants in order to be accepted. You’d be wrong: it says exactly what it wants. It created many websites in French and in Arabian where everything is explained very clearly. It organize lectures everywhere in France where you can hear speakers saying: “we only have to obey the law of Allah”, or more nicely, “some stupid western intellectuals, mostly Jews, write that nobody has the right to kill in the name of God. They do not understand: It’s a duty to kill in the name of God.”

These speakers are the Ramadan brothers, grandsons of Hassan al Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, who have created a European center of Islamic studies based in Geneva, Switzerland. One of their stars is a man called Yahya Michaux. He is a Christian converted to radical Islam. He is one of the most ferocious and scary orators I have ever heard. His story is interesting: he was a university professor in Belgium ëtill the moment the Belgian police discovered he was writing jihad-based justifications of slaughtering of Algerians. He was fired then and fled to Great Britain where he became immediately professor at Oxford University. Since then, he avoids Belgium where he could be put in jail for his former activities, but he comes to France every week to speak to “good Muslims.”

Every year in April, UOIF organize a national congress in Le Bourget, just north of Paris. This year, more than thirty thousand people came. If you went inside the main meeting hall, you had a shocking view: ten thousand people seated, five thousand men on the right side, sixty per cent of them wearing a thick beard; five thousand women on the left side, almost all of them wearing scarves that cover everything, the hair, the neck, the ears, and let appear only what’s in between the eyes and the chin. The orators speak about the greatness of Allah, about the fact that everything is ruled by the Quran. “Nobody must say we have to respect the secular rule of law, the Quran provides us the rule of law.” There are guests from all the main French political parties, except the rightist National Front. When it’s their turn to speak, they seem too afraid to say anything except: “Islam is one of the greatest accomplishments of civilization.”

On the Congress's last evening, Saturday April 19, Nicolas Sarkozy, chief of the Department of the Interior, came and said he agrees with everything Muslims ask from the French Republic, except one thing: Muslim women will not have the right to have a picture of them with a scarf on their ID. A large boo came from the audience, and Sarkozy could hardly finish his speech. He then left very fast. After he left, the president of UOIF said that to push Muslim women to not wear their scarves would be a way to discriminate against them. He added, without shame or hesitation, that it would the equivalent of the yellow star Jews had to wear in the forties.

Outside the meeting hall, you can find books. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is forbidden in France, but you can find The Sharon Protocol. And the seller will say to you: “Read it, it’s almost the same. Everything is explained, the way Jews want to seize the world and enslave all its people”. If you do not like The Sharon Protocol, you can buy another best seller: a booklet by Muhammad bin S'ad Al-Shwey'ir, a Saudi columnist. It's called The Jews Follow the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and many things are explained very clearly, even the fact that “Jews use human blood for rituals”. Do not say it’s anti-Semitism or immediately somebody will give you the explanation: “We cannot be anti-Semitic. Arabs are Semites, and they cannot have prejudices against Semites.”

UOIF has a student branch called Muslim Students of France. It’s supposed to be a student trade union, but their meetings have always the same object: fight Islamophobia in France, fight the assimilation of Muslims in France and explain to them they do not have to loose their identity, fight against the “Zionist entity” (they never say Israel, because for them Israel does not exist and is just an ugly pustule that will be removed from the maps very soon). They know they have strength and the future is open. Right now, Muslims are around 12 percent of the French population. Within ten years, they will be more than twenty per cent. They will be mostly young, and non-Muslim French people will be mostly old. “Be patient, be wise, time is on our side,” said one of the orators in Le Bourget. The audience answered frantically “Allahu Akbar.” Allah is great.

French socialists politicians have a big problem: “We have been identified with Zionism for too long,” one of them wrote recently. “We have to show much more to the Muslim community we respect it, and we have to show we understand the sufferings of Palestinians and their need to have a state as soon as possible.” French socialist politicians will change the way they speak, and they started to do it already.

But Muslims, and especially radical Muslims are more trusting of Jacques Chirac and his moderate right party. “Chirac knows very well we are the future, and he accepts it completely,” says a document written for the members of UOIF. And I think the document is right. Chirac knows very well radical Muslims are the future. A book has recently been published in France and is on its way to become a best seller. It’s called The Orient of Jacques Chirac, the author, Ahmed Youssef, says “Chirac is more Muslim than many Muslims.” “He acts through feelings, not reason.” And “he respects authority”. “He has been the builder of many bridges between France and the Arab world.”

France will become a Muslim country. French leaders know it. They will never take a decision that could make young radical Muslims angry. It’s one of the reasons why they could not support the United States during the war in Iraq. The results would have been riots in the suburbs, and the French police is ill equipped to face riots. French leaders have no choice except to be the leaders of the Arab-Muslim world. They accepted too many things to go backward now. The rift between France and the United States will become bigger and bigger. France is already the main enemy of western civilization. The most dangerous enemy is always the enemy within, and France is the enemy within. What France has become could have consequences for Europe and for the world. The faster France appears dangerous and powerless, the better.


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"Do not say it’s anti-Semitism or immediately somebody will give you the explanation: “We cannot be anti-Semitic. Arabs are Semites, and they cannot have prejudices against Semites"

I've heard this insane argument spouted by Muslims countless times. It's impossible to disabuse them of this notion, no matter how impeccable the logic one employs.

1 posted on 05/12/2003 3:22:39 AM PDT by Tarsk
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To: Tarsk
Sad to say, but I see the United States headed for the same ultimate destiny. Perhaps not in my lifetime, but it will be soon.

Despite what anyone says, Ashcroft was right when he said that these people know all about our rights and freedoms better than most Americans. They know very well they can teach their hatred and intolerance with complete impunity.

When the true intention of these people is finally realized it will be too late to do anything.

These people are not interested in becoming part of the American dream. They dont want to assimilate they want to take over.

2 posted on 05/12/2003 4:05:31 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: expatguy
Sad to say, but I see the United States headed for the same ultimate destiny....

Possibly, but not necessarily so. Those who call themselves 'christian' need to live what they belive with sincerity. This cultural warfare that needs to be fought is not 'logical' but spiritual and can be won.

The other aspect of the cultural war (and the war on terrorism)is economic. It's not up to the president to make the economy work, it's up to us as individuals. There are plenty of opportunities to succeed. Learn the free enterprise system, work it, and teach it to your kids. This country became great because of the the gospel and free enterprise system. Let the islamist sputter and bluster all they want. The more people that become spiritually and economicly free, the less influence and power they have (the same applies to combatting the liberals in this country as well).

3 posted on 05/12/2003 4:38:17 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Tarsk
to push Muslim women to not wear their scarves would be a way to discriminate against them. He added, without shame or hesitation, that it would the equivalent of the yellow star Jews had to wear in the forties.

Hmm, let's see now. Jews were forced to wear a yellow star so that they would be immediately recognized as Jews. To prohibit a Muslim woman from wearing hijab means she would NOT BE immediately recognized as Muslim. Typical Mohammedan logic.

4 posted on 05/12/2003 4:43:17 AM PDT by Alouette (Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
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To: Tarsk
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5 posted on 05/12/2003 5:02:06 AM PDT by RippleFire
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To: Tarsk; American in Israel
There are guests from all the main French political parties, except the rightist National Front. When it’s their turn to speak, they seem too afraid to say anything except: “Islam is one of the greatest accomplishments of civilization.”

The future of France will be a fight between the rightwing anti-Muslim National Front and the rest of the French political spectrum. It will pit traditional universal French anti-Semitism against the dire internal threat of an internal radical Muslim takeover.
6 posted on 05/12/2003 5:11:03 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
Last time I heard, France had nuclear weapons, lots of them in fact. So a radical Islamic government in charge of France is definately not a good thing.

Time to eliminate all WMD's from France before some radical becomes chief of the military.

7 posted on 05/12/2003 5:24:22 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (They run into our machine guns and we shoot them down like the morons they are.)
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When the true intention of these people is finally realized it will be too late to do anything. ++

As I know the member of communist party can't enter United States. Despite of freedom of speech the some type of ideology is openly discriminated.
But if you read communist doctrine there are not more hatred then in muslim doctrine.

So if it is apppropriate to ban the communism ideology off entering to US why then it can't be done against with islam ideology?
Same thing. Ban them.
8 posted on 05/12/2003 5:32:35 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: Tarsk
It's not a religion, it's a mental disease. Of epidemic proportions.
9 posted on 05/12/2003 5:34:48 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: George W. Bush
The future of France will be a fight between the rightwing anti-Muslim National Front and the rest of the French political spectrum. It will pit traditional universal French anti-Semitism against the dire internal threat of an internal radical Muslim takeover.

Isn't France's right wing fairly anti-Semitic, too? In fact, isn't a critical position towards Israel (and the resulting Palestinian/Arab sympathy) a tie that keeps the political wings of France (and of all Europe for that matter) from totally repelling each other and tearing the place apart (that, and anti-Americanism)? I suppose you're right, though, the nationalism and nativism of France's right wing will compel it confront the Muslim threat.

10 posted on 05/12/2003 5:49:30 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
Exactly. They loathe the Jews traditionally but the Muslims are already a far greater threat than the Jews ever were. And our recent excursions in Afghanistan and Iraq means there is no Arab oil money to bail out the French economy either.

Nice work by Team Bush.
11 posted on 05/12/2003 6:01:48 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
"They loathe the Jews traditionally but the Muslims are already a far greater threat than the Jews ever were."


What threat were the Jews exactly? They were only a threat if you consider great patriotism and a massive economic and cultural contribution to the society a threat.
12 posted on 05/12/2003 6:34:25 AM PDT by Tarsk
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Ahmed Youssef, says “Chirac is more Muslim than many Muslims.” “He acts through feelings, not reason.”

Hits the nail on the head, right there. This illustrates why Islam has been in a long, slow decline for the last 1000 years, and why France is already in the process of flushing itself down the Great Toilet of History.

13 posted on 05/12/2003 6:46:02 AM PDT by FierceDraka ("I am not a number - I am a FREE MAN!")
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To: Tarsk
Muslims are around 12 percent of the French population. Within ten years, they will be more than twenty per cent. They will be mostly young, and non-Muslim French people will be mostly old. “Be patient, be wise, time is on our side,”

You want to know France's future? Think "Algeria"!

A chilling bump.

14 posted on 05/12/2003 7:44:33 AM PDT by Gritty
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...So if it is apppropriate to ban the communism ideology off entering to US why then it can't be done against with islam ideology? Same thing. Ban them...[sic]

And therein is where the problem lies. Islam is an IDEALOGY and a religion and as a religion is CANNOT be stopped in America. The Muslim extremists know very well about America's "freedom of religion". They know very well that America is fertile ground to spread their idealogy of hate and that America's laws protect them.

The biggest mistake the Communists ever made was to present their idealogy devoid of religion. There would have been no winning the Cold War if Communism was claimed to be a religious movement.

15 posted on 05/12/2003 8:13:21 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: RusIvan
...So if it is apppropriate to ban the communism ideology off entering to US why then it can't be done against with islam ideology? Same thing. Ban them...[sic]

And therein is where the problem lies. Islam is an IDEALOGY and a religion and as a religion is CANNOT be stopped in America. The Muslim extremists know very well about America's "freedom of religion". They know very well that America is fertile ground to spread their idealogy of hate and that America's laws protect them.

The biggest mistake the Communists ever made was to present their idealogy devoid of religion. There would have been no winning the Cold War if Communism was claimed to be a religious movement.

16 posted on 05/12/2003 8:16:30 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: RusIvan
"So if it is apppropriate to ban the communism ideology off entering to US why then it can't be done against with islam ideology?"



That's the rub. Islam is a 'religion', so it's protected under the 1st amendment. (Moreso than Christianity it sometimes seems.) I've never bought into the defining characteristic of a religion as believing in the 'supernatural', though. Communism is every bit as much of a religion as Islam and Islam is every bit as much of a political ideology as Communism.
17 posted on 05/12/2003 8:57:05 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: Tarsk
There is an article in the June issue of Vanity Fair called "France's Scarlet Letter" by Marie Brenner. This was in Liz Smith's column in the NY Post. Headline for the Vanity Fair article: PARIS DEMONSTRATORS yelling "Kill the Jews!" torched synagogues, attacks against school kids...Ten percent Muslim, with the world's third-largest Jewish population , France is in crisis. And a few are willing to name the poison behind more than a thousand acts of violence since 2001: anti-Semitism."

18 posted on 05/12/2003 9:14:07 AM PDT by TracyPA
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France will become a Muslim country. French leaders know it.

As tempting as boycotting France might seem, if you ever in your life want to see the France of the Roman Gauls, Joan of Arc, or the Sun King, or of Dumas and Hugo, go now and enjoy the streets, the countryside, the museums, and the cathedrals. For in two score years, it may have passed beyond all recognition. Go not for the French who dwell there now, but for the sake of the French who once were. Their legacy is passing on to a generation that will surrender it all to the all-consuming "purifying" fires of Islam.

19 posted on 05/12/2003 9:21:40 AM PDT by GOP Jedi
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"Do not say it’s anti-Semitism or immediately somebody will give you the explanation: “We cannot be anti-Semitic. Arabs are Semites, and they cannot have prejudices against Semites"

I've heard this insane argument spouted by Muslims countless times. It's impossible to disabuse them of this notion, no matter how impeccable the logic one employs.

It's not insane. Technically speaking, both people groups are in fact Semites (Shemites). Muslim apologists use this little-known fact to muddy the water in the West, where traditionally the term 'antisemite' has referred exclusively to hatred of Jews.

So, while their contention is technically correct, they argue thus in order to confuse rather than to clarify. Whatever the label used, they really do hate the Jews, and there is no getting around it.


20 posted on 05/12/2003 9:42:26 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (http://c-pol.com)
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