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B-1B's War Achievements Spur New Upgrade Proposals
Aerospace Daily | May 7, 2003 | Stephen Trimble

Posted on 05/09/2003 8:32:21 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

Encouraged by the B-1B bomber's strong showing in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Boeing program's backers plan to push for returning 12 retired bombers to operational status and to seek funds for new upgrades for the fleet.

"I'll be optimistic and say that [the B-1B's war record] is going to basically improve the B-1's long-term upgrade plan," Rich Parke, Boeing's director of advanced programs business development, said May 6.

An urgent question is whether to readjust the size of the B-1B fleet, Parke said. In 2001, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld ordered the U.S. Air Force to retire 33 B-1Bs and divert some of the maintenance savings to pay for new upgrades, such as integrating the Lockheed Martin Joint Air to Surface Standoff Missile-Extended Range.

Flush with new operating data, Air Force and Boeing officials again plan to argue that the 60-bomber fleet is not enough. Air Force officials "would like another dozen" B-1Bs brought out of retirement, Parke said, adding that Boeing agrees with the service's estimate.

Air Combat Command keeps about 36 B-1Bs available for combat, and up to 24 were deployed during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Parke said. "A huge portion of the B-1 force structure was forward deployed" in February and March, he said, which strained training and maintenance schedules.

A decision is needed soon to avoid the expense of restoring at least some of the planes to operational status, Parke said. The Air Force has stripped the operational gear out of most of the retired B-1B fleet, but at least six aircraft are being held in reserve while some B-1Bs are being upgraded to the Block E configuration of the $1 billion Conventional Mission Upgrades Program.

"We have to make the decision right now," Parke said.

B-1B supporters also are campaigning to win funding for a handful of upgrade programs, such as integrating new defensive systems, radars and targeting pods, in the five-year budget planning cycle starting in fiscal 2006, he said.

Last week, Parke said, the Air Force awarded Boeing a small contract to study options for a replacement of the Defensive System Upgrade Program (DSUP), which was canceled in December after a string of costly program restructurings.

Boeing's study team, which reports to the Air Force later this summer, will consider a range of options, including the ALE-55 fiber optic towed decoy, upgrading the existing ALQ-161 system and emerging technologies.

Another proposal is to integrate an exterior targeting pod on one of the B-1B's hard points, such as the Litening II pod recently demonstrated in combat by a B-52 crew, Parke said. The pod would allow B-1B crews to confirm and laser-designate emerging targets, he said, rather than relying on fighters to do that.

Funding isn't the only obstacle to equipping B-1Bs with targeting pods. As conventional bombers, B-1Bs are banned from installing external hard points by the START I treaty, Parke said.

A further upgrade being proposed is a radar with a one-foot resolution, replacing the B-1B's 10-foot resolution system that can't distinguish a military jeep from a school bus, Parke said.

-- Stephen Trimble



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: b1b; bombers; bombs; iraqifreedom; jdams; miltech; pictures

1 posted on 05/09/2003 8:32:22 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Where are the B-1s stored that are in retirement ?
2 posted on 05/09/2003 8:37:09 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Hard to imagine we're already retiring these.

3 posted on 05/09/2003 8:37:38 AM PDT by realpatriot
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Davis-Monthan AFB, at the AMARC (Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Center).
4 posted on 05/09/2003 8:40:22 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: realpatriot
Well, the B-1B's had a LOT of problems. The electronic warfare system never worked right--they even lowered the performance standard, and they STILL needed to perform a massive upgrade just to meet the reduced specification. Logistically, it's 1970s hardware--good luck getting spares.
5 posted on 05/09/2003 8:42:21 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
Yea, but it sure is pretty.

Best looking military plane ever, IMO (next to the A-10, of course).

6 posted on 05/09/2003 8:44:57 AM PDT by TomB
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To: Stand Watch Listen
I still think it's one of the best looking warbirds in the sky. Only the Tomcat looks better to me nose-on.

BUMP
7 posted on 05/09/2003 8:48:37 AM PDT by Blueflag
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What surprised me, when looking at our bomber on fas.org, was the large payload of the B-1. We always hear about the B-52 but look at the capabilities of the B-1:

Apparently, the biggest problem with the B-1 is that it is more expensive to fly than the old B-52.

8 posted on 05/09/2003 8:50:33 AM PDT by mikegi
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60% of all JDAM's dropped on Iraq were dropped by B-1's. An amazing percentage when you consider how few were acutally deployed.
9 posted on 05/09/2003 8:50:49 AM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: TomB; Blueflag


10 posted on 05/09/2003 8:55:23 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Very cool. I read an article once about the artist who paints those B-1 prints. Can't remember his name.
11 posted on 05/09/2003 9:00:03 AM PDT by Blueflag
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To: Blueflag
The artist's name is Dru Blair -- http://www.drublair.com/
12 posted on 05/09/2003 9:44:49 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: Stand Watch Listen
For the record:


13 posted on 05/09/2003 1:44:48 PM PDT by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
SWL--

Bet ya' didn't know they flight tested the B-2 to Mach 1.02 at sea level?

http://www.strangecosmos.com/view.adp?picture_id=8764
14 posted on 05/13/2003 12:37:02 PM PDT by Blueflag
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To: ken in texas
Thanks!
15 posted on 05/13/2003 12:37:43 PM PDT by Blueflag
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To: Blueflag
Wow!!!

I thought the B2 wasn't supersonic at all. Amazing.
16 posted on 05/13/2003 12:42:45 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Monty22
Monty22--

You gotta change your meds.

The photo is from strangecosmos.com <-- translation: a joke

The B-2 is decidedly subsonic. I don't have any data, but I'd guess Vne is about .94 Mach.
17 posted on 05/13/2003 12:54:33 PM PDT by Blueflag
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To: Blueflag
Just to amplify --

At sea level, the speed of sound is about 761 miles per hour. At 20,000 feet the speed of sound is 660 miles per hour.

I'd be suprised if the B-2 cruised much above 550 mph +/-. It's high subsonic in cruise, but to avoid generating much of an acoustic or thermal signature, you just don't want to go that fast.
18 posted on 05/13/2003 1:03:49 PM PDT by Blueflag
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Great PICS!!
19 posted on 05/13/2003 1:40:53 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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