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Filibustering the confirmation process is a violation of Senators oath of office and unconstitutional.

US Senate: Art & History Home > Origins & Development > ... I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

Senate Is to Advise And Consent, Not Obstruct and Delay The Framers Envisioned A Narrow Role for The Senate in The Confirmation Process.

United States Senator Jeff Sessions Wednesday, February 26, 2003 Judicial Nominations -- Miguel Estrada

How did we get into this circumstance? How did we get to this point where the ground rules have changed, that we are into an obstructionist tactic, an unfair procedure? What happened? After the last election when President Bush was elected, the New York Times reported that the Democrat majority, the Democratic Senators at that time early in President Bush's administration had a retreat at some location unknown to me, and they heard at that time from three liberal law professors, Lawrence Tribe, Cass Sunstein, and Marcia Green burger. These liberal professors at this private retreat told the Democrats at that time, they should change the ground rules for nominations. They should ratchet up the pressure and they should alter the historic rules of courtesy, the historic presumptions in the Senate, and they should change how nominees are treated. They said: You have the power to do it. Do it, Democrats. Stand up and block these nominees. Do not accept the nominees from President Bush, like this Republican Senate accepted President Clinton's nominees. Fight every step of the way. That is apparently what has happened.

Shortly after that, when the majority in the Senate changed, I served on the Administrative Oversight and the Courts subcommittee. Senator Schumer chaired that subcommittee. He held hearings. He held hearings to argue the point that the burden of proof for a confirmation of a judge should change and it ought to be on the judge to prove he is qualified. That has never been done before in the history of this country. We had Lloyd Cutler, former Counsel to the White House of Democrat Presidents. We had others testify. They testified that it would be wrong to shift the burden to the nominee, it was not the right thing to do. Then he had hearings to say we ought to just consider your politics, your ideology, as he said, and we can consider somebody's politics, and we can reject them if we do not agree politically.

Senators Mull Options to End 'Advise and Dissent'

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) chaired the hearing. He agrees with both Miller and the White House.

"Any exceptions to the doctrine of majority rule, such as any rule of a supermajority vote being required on nominations, must, in my view, be expressly stated in the Constitution," he said.

"For example, the Constitution expressly provides for a supermajority, two-thirds voting rule for Senate approval of treaties and other matters," Cornyn continued. "That's not the case, however, with regard to judicial nominees."

The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) prepared a report for the subcommittee entitled "An End to Nomination Filibusters and the Need for Cloture Motions," which argues that the Senate can, by a simple majority vote, amend its own rules to eliminate the use of filibusters against judicial nominees.

Under current Senate Rule XXII, the Senate is bound to allow unlimited debate unless 60 senators vote to "invoke cloture," ending discussion on the matter under consideration. When Rule XXII was adopted, the sponsors included language requiring a two-thirds majority vote to amend the rule.

ACLJ Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow believes that provision is not binding on the current members of the Senate.

"Nothing in the Constitution, the Federalist Papers or other source documents indicates the obstructive and delaying tactics by legislative minorities were intended to be the source of the Senate's deliberative care," Sekulow wrote.

"A willing majority of senators [could] make new rules for the Senate," Sekulow concluded, "either eliminating the filibuster or substantially curtailing the impact of a filibuster by eliminating the supermajority requirements."

Miller's proposal, examined in light of the ACLJ analysis, appears to be both constitutional and practical. Democrats may have a harder time opposing Miller's strategy, as well, both because he is a Democrat and because it is modeled after a proposal originally introduced in 1995 by Tom Harkin (Iowa) and Joseph Lieberman (Conn.), both Democratic senators.

THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE, INC. JAY ALAN SEKULOW Chief Counsel Given the prerogative of the majority, and the respect for that prerogative expressed in Brown, Metzenbaum, and Davis, a willing majority in the Senate could make it in order for the Senate immediately to take up the questions proposed above, regarding the making of the Senate’s rules, the prohibiting of filibusters on judicial nominations (or the phasing out of them), and the confirmation of Miguel Estrada (or other nominees). And while sixty votes may not be found to invoke cloture, Brown, Metzenbaum, Davis, and their predecessors in law and Senate practice confirm that all that would be required to make the necessary rule changes is a majority of a quorum of the Senate – a sufficient number of Senators to insure that the power of the body to act has arisen.


Judicial Nominations, Filibusters, The Constitution: When A Majority Is Denied PART 1 " To reject on constitutional grounds a supermajority requirement for cloture regarding judicial nominees does not compel the same conclusion regarding legislation. The Founding Fathers worried about an excess of law making and erected barriers to that end, including a presidential veto. Filibustering to defeat legislation works towards that same constitutional end. In contrast, the Founding Fathers voiced no concern over the appointment of too many federal judges or judges echoing a uniform philosophy of judging. Filibustering judicial nominees with a supermajority cloture rule advances no constitutional objective or sentiment. Indeed, in the particular cases of two circuit court nominees now before the Senate, the filibustering wars with the constitutional goal of an independent judiciary to check legislative excesses. It is transparent that several pro-filibuster Senators aim to block confirmation of the nominees because fearful they might check congressional usurpations under either the Commerce Clause or section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment. In other words, the filibusters are calculated to weaken judicial review of federal statutes.

Judicial Nominations, Filibusters, The Constitution: When A Majority Is Denied PART 2 " My advice is simple: follow the law of the Constitution. The original understanding gives unfettered nomination authority to the President. So too, the text allows the full Senate to reject any nominee for any reason, though commentary at the founding supposed that the reasons would have far more to do with intellectual quality or capability than partisan disagreement with the nominee’s judicial perspective. Beyond that, President Bush has put the matter simply and directly: "the Senate has a constitutional responsibility to exercise its advice and consent function and hold up-or-down votes on all judicial nominees within a reasonable time after nomination."

Now if the response to this is that the Senate, by constitutional text, has sweeping authority to determine its own rules under Article I, section 5, that is, with respect, an incomplete and evasive response. As the Supreme Court unanimously held in United States v. Ballin (1892), "[t]he constitution empowers each house to determine its rules of proceedings. It may not by its rules ignore constitutional restraints or violate fundamental rights, and there should be a reasonable relation between the mode or method of proceeding established by the rule and the result which is sought to be attained." In a constitutional system, power, like freedom, is not without limit, and the exercise of one provision to thwart the reasonable nominating discretion of the executive and undermine the functioning of the judiciary is subversive of the separation of powers and the constitutional system.

This is especially so when adopted senate rules disregard the principal of majority governance by imposing textually unauthorized super-majority requirements, and where those supermajority requirements are the product of rules never adopted by the current Senate.



1 posted on 05/09/2003 8:20:00 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Those reforms will be filibustered.
2 posted on 05/09/2003 8:22:35 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Remedy
The DemonRATS will let no Bush judicial nominee like Owens, Pickering or Estrada be confirmed no matter what by any and every means necessary.

Bush and Frist and everyone under the sun can do or try anything they want and God Bless them for it, but it ain't going to happen.

This is the way the DemonRATS legislate and liberals get their laws made: FROM THE BENCH!

That power will not be allowed to be taken from them and the rule of law by The Consitiution to be re-instated... Look how the liberals power worked in New Jersey: liberal judges threw out the law and declared that voting laws in NJ are what they say they are and not how they are written the the NJ law books. That is the way the liberals want the entire country at the federal level to operate.

4 posted on 05/09/2003 8:33:02 AM PDT by KriegerGeist ("The weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty though God for pulling down of strongholds")
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To: Remedy
Go get 'em Bill
8 posted on 05/09/2003 8:43:20 AM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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US Senate Republican Policy Committee

Nation’s Newspapers Demand End to Filibuster

Updated through April 8, 2003

At least 128 editorials from 90 separate newspapers from 33 states and the District of Columbia have argued that the Democrat-led filibuster should end and/or that Mr. Estrada should be confirmed.

Only 16 editorials in 12 separate newspapers have argued that Mr. Estrada’s nomination should be blocked by filibuster or that Senators need more information before voting up-or-down.

The following chart represents every newspaper editorial published this year that could be located – not including op-eds, even if signed by a member of the newspaper’s own editorial staff – regarding the pending nomination. Each editorial is listed by date, and where a newspaper has editorialized more than once on the subject, a separate date is provided. Not all of the many editorial boards opposing this filibuster necessarily favor Mr. Estrada, and they are marked accordingly. In addition, some editorial boards have stopped short of commenting on the merits of the nomination or the filibuster, and are marked as "ambiguous" and not included in the totals above.

14 posted on 05/09/2003 8:52:44 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
Isn't it interesting that once Sen. Talent floats his "nuclear" plan, a weaker alternative offered by a Democrat gets jumped on?

I preferred Talents plan because it didn't change the rules, it merely used the parlimentary process.

I'm leary of this nuclear plan because I'm not sure how it will impact conservatives in the future.

15 posted on 05/09/2003 8:54:52 AM PDT by Nephi (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Remedy
Why is Frist soft-pedaling this? If you say the process is broken, act like you mean it and make the rule change. Get the senate presiding officer to claim rule xxii doesn't apply to the executive calendar and approve the President's judicial nominees. This is a time for decisive action. Otherwise the inertia of the Senate will pull things back to gridlock.
18 posted on 05/09/2003 8:59:08 AM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: Remedy; Big Steve; deport; blackie; nickcarraway; Maeve; PhiKapMom; Salvation
ping
29 posted on 05/09/2003 4:45:00 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld,Rice 2004)
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To: Remedy; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
If you care about conservative issues, call your Congress critter Monday and urge them to support Senator Frist in this. There can hardly be anything more important on your agenda, at least imho.
31 posted on 05/09/2003 6:48:26 PM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: Remedy
He said his proposal was modeled after a broader plan, made by Democratic Sens. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Tom Harkin of Iowa in 1995.

LOL, I guess Holy Joe and Harkin have changed their views. Hypocrites! Maybe Holy Joe should be asked some tough questions on the campaign trail.

On another note, none of this really bothers me because I am confident that the RATS are digging their own graves. They are so negative and divisive, while at the same time Bush (and by extention the GOP) are the epitome of sunny optimism. I have discussions with liberals everyday and they are disheartened. They know that to win they must root for bad things to happen. And they know this is obvious to political independents. They also know they have no bench, and therefore no future. They live in fear of a Hillary run.

The criticism of Bush's aircraft carrier speech and the obstruction of judges will signal thier death knell. RIP RATS!!!!! LOL!!!!!

32 posted on 05/09/2003 6:49:00 PM PDT by SoCar (Huckabee's "Tax Me More Fund" needs to spread!)
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To: Remedy
Now urgent? Has Frist been on vacation for past several months??
37 posted on 05/09/2003 7:33:31 PM PDT by cynicom
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