To: Dimensio
Evolution is a theory of biology. It has nothing to do with universe origins. Ok. That means evolutionists won't object when it is posited that God created the universe and God caused life from non-life. You can't object because you just said your theory has nothing to do with those two miracles.
Let it be known here and now that Dimensio insists evolution has nothing to say about God's creation of the universe or His bringing forth of life from non-life.
That evolution is an attempt to remove God from every aspect of human life is a creationist strawman
That happens to be your straw man argument since I have never seen a creationist put it forth.
833 posted on
05/09/2003 1:04:35 PM PDT by
Dataman
To: Dataman
Ok. That means evolutionists won't object when it is posited that God created the universe and God caused life from non-life. You can't object because you just said your theory has nothing to do with those two miracles. That is correct. When you see a scientific journal article that tries to suggest God couldn't have created life from non-life, please let me know.
842 posted on
05/09/2003 1:15:55 PM PDT by
donh
To: Dataman
Let it be known here and now that Dimensio insists evolution has nothing to say about God's creation of the universe or His bringing forth of life from non-life.
Let it also be known that I, whattajoke, an avowed non-theist, non believer in anything supernatural at all, cannot disagree with your statement. Hey, now you're getting somewhere.
However, there are other competing theories out there now regarding the origins of the universe, the earth, and life, which is all well and good. Lots of good research has been done and it points to boring ol' naturalistic explanations. I can not unequivocably state that God did not create these things. Now that you have your hypothesis (god created the heavens and the earth), I urge you to get to the theory part. hell, that hypothesis has been out there for multiple millenia, but never seems to get past that stage.
Perhaps you're the one to do it. godspeed, Dataman, godspeed.
To: Dataman
Wow, you've finally gotten what we've been saying all along?
Abiogenesis is an explanation of the origins of life, although it draws upon evolution to explain it.
Evolution is an explanation of observed phenomena where species change over time. Heck, God could have created the world complete with Adam and Eve, and then set evolution in motion. Or an "intelligent designer" could have started life, and then used evolution as the tool to change it.
862 posted on
05/09/2003 1:48:15 PM PDT by
Quick1
To: Dataman
That means evolutionists won't object when it is posited that God created the universe and God caused life from non-life. You can't object because you just said your theory has nothing to do with those two miracles.
The theory does have nothing to do with universe origins or life from non-life. The only valid objection that I can see is trying to pass off the "God did it" explanation as science, since it is not scientific to assert as much (as it invokes explanations that fall outside of the scope of science). I do not, however, see such an assertion as incompatable with or contradictory to the theory of evolution.
"That evolution is an attempt to remove God from every aspect of human life is a creationist strawman"
That happens to be your straw man argument since I have never seen a creationist put it forth.
Funny, I seem to get that impression from a number of Creationist posters, though some more explicitly than others. Gore3000, for example, seems stronly convinced that it is the case that evolution is just an attempt to justify atheistic materialism.
1,027 posted on
05/09/2003 11:50:46 PM PDT by
Dimensio
(Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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