Artificial Life Experiments Show How Complex Functions Can Evolve

NSF ^ | May 8, 2003 | Staff

[Heartlander]

Oh, I forgot ‘justified’ insults as opposed to… well, ‘justified’ insults….

No, you’re out of order!
You can’t handle the truth!

[Virginia-American]

...Why Gore3000?...

I thought he wanted a thousand year reich of Gores!

[Heartlander]

Any chance these guys will realize whom I’m talking about?

I guess there is no purpose to it all…

LOL!

[AndrewC]

Since you are fairly civil in your response I will reply.

I disagree with your premise, spelling errors aside.

You are correct. My premise was hyperbole. I should have written "Gaffes are not rare on these threads and are made on different sides of arguments."

As to your description of certain types of individuals being eager to confess error, I tend to disagree, having been recently involved in a dispute. I will merely state that so as not to invoke a new exchange of words over the incident.

Involved in the topic was another individual, who was mistaken. He civilly asked for an explanation. I gave it to him citing the source and explaining his error. I did not refer to it as an error and I did not call him names for not reading or understanding what was available to him. The individual never acknowledged error, and I did not harry him for such an acknowledgement. I offered to go on and discuss a part of the controversy but received no reply. It seems to me that he did not wish to "technically" discuss the topic when given the opportunity. I also find that to be "overcooked"(not rare) on these threads.

[PatrickHenry]

PLACEMARKER Switch to plan F3. Oook! Oook!

[donh]

Since gravity (to you) is a matter of belief, then perhaps you will be willing to jump off a 20 story building to prove that it is wrong?

Since gravity (to me) is a matter of BELIEF, then perhaps I won't be willing to jump off a 20 story building to prove that it is wrong, since I BELIEVE it is correct.

I like these riddles, lets try another. Since you believe God gave you forks to taste food with, perhaps you will use the fork to scrape off your taste buds.

[js1138]

Everyone of us, creationist or evolutionist, has expanded our knowledge via these threads...

Worth affirming.

[js1138]

Nightfall the movie has to be one of the worst POS in existence. Like one of the hippie dippie episodes of the original Star Trek, but without the great script and great acting. ;^)

[js1138]

I think we ought to collect up the sort of rationally obtained knowledge which is denied here, and preserve it for future generations to rediscover after the end of the coming Second Dark Ages.

Try A Canticle For Liebowitz.

[PatrickHenry]

[Concerning the coming Second Dark Ages] Try A Canticle For Liebowitz.

As with most such SF topics, Heinlein did it earlier. And perhaps better. I think it was "Revolt in 2100."

[general_re]

Like one of the hippie dippie episodes of the original Star Trek, but without the great script and great acting.

[js1138]

I almost forgot the great costumes and great haircuts.

[general_re]

Not to mention the fabulous makeup the ladies wore - I figure that back in those days, somewhere near the Star Trek set was a 10,000 gallon holding tank, and every week or so a big Max Factor truck would pull up and replenish their supplies of eyeshadow and mascara...

[gore3000]

You better hope that people can simulate things such as nuclear reactor and weapons safety. Your life does depend on these simulations.

There is a difference between such simulations (as well as others such as for planes, cars, etc.) , a big difference. First of all, in such simulations, the forces in question, the things being tested are known. They deal with well verified forces for which there are formulas which have been tested numerous times in real life. Computers are good at math and can thus include these well tested formulas in their simulations and use them in their tests.

However, even then, the simulations are not the end of the testing. There is still considerable testing done after the simulations are done. There is real life testing that proceeds afterwards.

The simulation here fails in all the above respects. It is trying to prove a theory which has not been proven in real life. It is trying to simulate a theory for which there are no verified formulas. It is trying to do simulate something which cannot be tested in real life (from the article: " to create a road map detailing the evolution of complex organisms, an old problem in biology."). So therefore, this simulation is pure bunk as I have been saying. The best use that can be made of it is turn it into a game. Maybe then they can repay the public moneys these folk have been wasting.

[gore3000]

Check out post 1677 for more of the same.

That post is perfectly true and it came after HUNDREDS of constant insults by you and your fellow thugs of evolution. It was perfectly legitimate and justified. Yes Patrick, I will respond to your slimes.

[gore3000]

We insult you because you post before you think.

If that were true, then you and your friends could easily refute my statements made on this thread. You cannot. I could like you folk talk about the lies and imbecilities posted by opponents on just about every thread, but I cannot bother myself with such nonsense. Only the lame and the liars need to try to nit-pick their opponents. Those who can refute the statements of opponents, like myself, do not need to degrade themselves with such tactics.

[Junior]

Two years ago, when your statements were fresh, they were refuted out of hand a half-dozen times or so. That you keep repeating the same crap over and over again, and that evolutionists have grown weary of posting the same refutations over and over again, does not mean your crap hasn't been refuted. That you believe it does points to some sort of delusional willfulness on your part. Wearing down your opponent does not equal victory in scientific debates.

[PatrickHenry]

Behold, how I am an nnocent victim of the thread-destroying blue stalker:.

That post is perfectly true and it came after HUNDREDS of constant insults by you and your fellow thugs of evolution. It was perfectly legitimate and justified. Yes Patrick, I will respond to your slimes.
1,935 posted on 05/25/2003 10:59 AM EDT by gore3000

[longshadow]

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Nightfall the movie has to be one of the worst POS in existence.

I didn't think it was quite that good...