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Is You Wicked? (Ali G Alert)
New York Times ^ | May 7, 2003 | Maureen Dowd

Posted on 05/07/2003 9:33:07 AM PDT by Mister Magoo

Is You Wicked? By MAUREEN DOWD

ames Baker, the former secretary of state who helped make two Bushes president, the first by sniping at Massachusetts, the second by snatching away Florida, is an extremely careful man.

A dignified diplomat with a deep fear of ridicule, Mr. Baker always keeps his suit jacket and his public utterances buttoned.

That is why I was dumbfounded one recent night to see him being interviewed on HBO by a hip-hop guy wearing fatigues, shades, a skullcap and bling-bling and talking like a British gangsta/Rasta rapper.

The young man was asking a skeptical and increasingly impatient Mr. Baker whether it was wise for Iraq and Iran to have such similar names.

YOUNG MAN: Isn't there a real danger that someone give a message over the radio to one of them fighter pilots, saying, `Bomb Ira——' and the geezer doesn't heard it properly and bombs Iran instead of Iraq?

MR. BAKER: No danger.

YOUNG MAN: How does you make countries do stuff you want?

MR. BAKER: Well, the way you deal with countries on foreign policy issues . . . is you deal with carrots and sticks.

YOUNG MAN: But what country is gonna want carrots, even if it's like a million tons of carrots that you're giving over there——

MR. BAKER: Well, carrots — I'm not using the term literally. You might send foreign aid — money, money.

YOUNG MAN: Well, money's better than carrots. Even if a country love carrots and that is, like, their favorite national food, if they get given them——

MR. BAKER: Well, don't get hung up on carrots. That's just a figure of speech.

YOUNG MAN: So would you ever send carrots? You know, is there any situation——

MR. BAKER: No, no.

YOUNG MAN: What about if there was a famine?

MR. BAKER: Carrots, themselves? No.

The interview was a hilarious classic in the seldom-seen subgenre of international relations humor.

Mr. Baker could outfox Al Gore but not Ali G. The 31-year-old British satirist, whose new HBO show has already become a cult favorite among high school and college kids, came to America to do the same sort of interviews he did in England, putting unwitting V.I.P.'s on the spot.

With his white-gangsta-rapper-wannabe persona, Sacha Baron Cohen, a brilliant graduate of Cambridge, sends up the vacuity of the culture in an era when putting people on TV who attract the right demographic is more important than putting people on TV who know what they're talking about.

But the interviews depend on the subject's not recognizing Ali G or even realizing that he's a comedian.

Ali G scammed Mr. Baker and others into granting interviews by sending them flattering letters on fancy stationery from United World Productions, inviting them to be part of a six-part series for Channel 4 on British TV aimed at explaining the U.S. Constitution to young people.

With his crew, Mr. Cohen went into Mr. Baker's conference room in a dark suit and put on his garish Ali G outfit before Mr. Baker came in.

As in England, Mr. Cohen has left a trail of irritated interviewees in his wacky wake.

Marlin Fitzwater had his doubts when Ali G showed up wearing a red jumpsuit and high-tops and asked inane questions. Like Mr. Baker, Mr. Fitzwater figured that Ali G was dressing for his "hippie" audience. But he ended the interview after Ali G asked him whether Hillary Clinton drank "from the fairy cup."

"I said, `You're an idiot,' " Mr. Fitzwater recalled. "I'd never been lied to like that. I was two steps away from calling the sheriff."

Donald Trump, who walked out of an interview when Ali G tried to pitch the idea of a glove to eat ice cream cones with, recalled: "I thought he was seriously retarded. It was a total con job. But my daughter, Ivanka, saw it and thought it was very cool."

James Woolsey was good-natured when Ali G brought up the grassy knoll and asked, "Who shot J. R.?" Richard Thornburgh was patient when Ali G misinterpreted the meaning of hung juries. And Brent Scowcroft didn't flinch when Ali G asked him, "Did they ever catch the people who sent Tampax through the mail?"

"It was anthrax," Mr. Scowcroft corrected pleasantly.

Ali G is wicked. And to him, that's a compliment.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alig; baker; dowd; fitzwater
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1 posted on 05/07/2003 9:33:07 AM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: Mister Magoo
Dowd - Where hip-hop meets menopause.
3 posted on 05/07/2003 9:41:19 AM PDT by Sgt Hulka 123
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To: Mister Magoo
This time she hasn't just forgotten to take her meds. She must been on coke or ecstasy when she wrote this column.

Doesn't Howell Raines understand that this sort of insanity doesn't cast ridicule on the Bush White House but on whatever reputation may remain to the New York Times?
4 posted on 05/07/2003 9:43:15 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Uh, I don't think she's trying to ridicule the Bush White House (this time). I think it's simply an article about how she thinks Ali G is funny. And he is funny -- in my opinion.
5 posted on 05/07/2003 9:49:31 AM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: Mister Magoo
the former secretary of state who helped make two Bushes president, the first by sniping at Massachusetts, the second by snatching away Florida, is an extremely careful man

I know it's boring, but I'm going to repeat it anyway: every subsequent recount --- by precinct, by county, and state-wide --- showed Bush the clear winner in Florida.

I know it's a truism but I'm going to say it anyway: Every liberal lies, every time s/he speaks.

6 posted on 05/07/2003 9:56:26 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Mister Magoo
I've seen Ali G.'s show. What's it like, you ask?

Never before have I witnesssed an UNFUNNIER show than his. Anyone who thinks his stuff is the slightest bit humourous would probably be the same type that keels over, belly-laughing, at Ellen re-runs. Maybe it's just a British/European thing, but this show has absolutely zero chance of making it in America.

Seriously, it's BAD.
7 posted on 05/07/2003 9:57:04 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (and I guess that says something about MoDo's "sense of humour")
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To: Mister Magoo
Big Up yourself.
8 posted on 05/07/2003 9:57:38 AM PDT by Lance Romance
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To: Mister Magoo
What is "bling bling"?
9 posted on 05/07/2003 10:00:46 AM PDT by Under the Radar (Women's lib gave women the ability to pick up the check for their own abortions.)
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To: Slip18
YOUNG MAN: Isn't there a real danger that someone give a message over the radio to one of them fighter pilots, saying, `Bomb Ira——' and the geezer doesn't heard it properly and bombs Iran instead of Iraq?

MR. BAKER: No danger.

YOUNG MAN: How does you make countries do stuff you want?

MR. BAKER: Well, the way you deal with countries on foreign policy issues . . . is you deal with carrots and sticks.

YOUNG MAN: But what country is gonna want carrots, even if it's like a million tons of carrots that you're giving over there——

MR. BAKER: Well, carrots — I'm not using the term literally. You might send foreign aid — money, money.

YOUNG MAN: Well, money's better than carrots. Even if a country love carrots and that is, like, their favorite national food, if they get given them——

MR. BAKER: Well, don't get hung up on carrots. That's just a figure of speech.

YOUNG MAN: So would you ever send carrots? You know, is there any situation——

MR. BAKER: No, no.

YOUNG MAN: What about if there was a famine?

MR. BAKER: Carrots, themselves? No.
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Didn't we have this discussion last night?
10 posted on 05/07/2003 10:01:25 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Cicero
that is what is so flippin weird.....doesn't the NYT know that a Dowd piece is so silly and mean every reader knows the childish delivery is weak, pointed and frankly,useless ?
11 posted on 05/07/2003 10:01:58 AM PDT by cars for sale
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To: Under the Radar
I was wondering, too, so I did a Google. I am now sorry that I did so...

Click.

12 posted on 05/07/2003 10:04:05 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: canuck_conservative

You must be some kinda chichi bwoy innit

13 posted on 05/07/2003 10:10:32 AM PDT by Hazzardgate
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To: Cyber Liberty
LOL! 'Twasn't about carrots, though.
14 posted on 05/07/2003 10:29:36 AM PDT by Slip18 (I don't have a tag tag.)
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To: Mister Magoo
Ali G might be wicked, but that James Baker is one bad mother...

(Shut yo' mouth!)
15 posted on 05/07/2003 10:32:21 AM PDT by RichInOC (...just talkin' 'bout James...can you dig it, can you dig it?)
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To: Cyber Liberty
" . . .your source for high quality 14k, 18k and 24k in available Yellow Gold, White Gold, and Platinum custom made teeth at guaranteed lowest prices on the net."

What? No way . . .

16 posted on 05/07/2003 10:32:40 AM PDT by Slip18 (I don't have a tag tag.)
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To: Slip18
Why would they want a bunch of carrots? What if they already have lots of carrots? Or sticks?

Sounds like it to me....

17 posted on 05/07/2003 10:33:35 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Slip18
Reminded me of the Andy Griffith episode with Ernest T. Bass, when he got a new gold tooth cover:

"Hey, dontcha just love it the way the sun shines off'n it when the mouth kicks open?"

18 posted on 05/07/2003 10:34:54 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Mister Magoo
I agree that Ali G is funny...I have seen two of his shows and both of them were hilarious. It had me laughing out loud the entire time (Of course, I also find irreverant shows like Howard Stern and "The Family Guy" really funny as well)

It is amazing how these V.I.P's treat Ali G with such kid gloves, apparently worrying that they might "offend" him...
19 posted on 05/07/2003 10:47:10 AM PDT by larlaw
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To: Mister Magoo; BrooklynGOP; Sir Gawain
When I watch Ali G, I can't help but wonder, not only how he gets the major interviews he does, but how those being interviewed haven't a clue as to his antics.
20 posted on 05/07/2003 10:49:39 AM PDT by Texaggie79 (YATTA!)
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