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Marin County breast cancer clues: Alcohol main risk factor in UCSF study
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 6 May 2003 | Ulysses Torassa

Posted on 05/06/2003 10:50:21 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:42:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The biggest difference between Marin County women with breast cancer and their neighbors without the disease is the amount of alcohol they consume - - with the heaviest drinkers raising their risk almost fourfold, researchers report.

In the first study comparing a group of women in Marin County with breast cancer to a control group, researchers at UCSF found that the length of time spent living in that county had no bearing on their likelihood of developing the disease. That suggests that a mysterious toxin in the air, water or soil in Marin County is not a likely cause for the area's high breast cancer rate, according to Margaret Wrensch, professor of epidemiology at UCSF and lead author of the study posted online last week in the journal Breast Cancer Research.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: alcohol; breasecancer; breastcancer; marincounty; ucsf
Hold muh Beer alert?
1 posted on 05/06/2003 10:50:21 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Saundra Duffy
Check this out...
2 posted on 05/06/2003 10:52:05 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
And they NEVER mentioned, nor tested (?) nor asked about prior abortions................

Funny. I wonder why the writers didn't want to investigate this relationship.

Gee.

Lt's assume there is a relationship between (excessive)drinking and breast cancer - which doesn't seem to kill many fat, multi-year drinking men .....

I wonder what link there might be between prolonged depression and killing your previous babies.
3 posted on 05/06/2003 10:54:21 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I support FR monthly; and ABBCNNBCBS (continue to) Lie!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Went through the pdf file and, nope, no abortion mention...but being a part of organized religion does...go figure.
4 posted on 05/06/2003 11:01:07 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I thought of that too. Pro-life is not my first voting issue, but I was curious about the abortion angle too. I have been to Marin county, and I can tell you that even the GOPer's that live there are pretty "liberal minded" socially. With that said, I wonder what the past medical history of the subjects was, in particular abortions. Remember there was supposed to be a big report like 2 months ago by a medical consortium about the possible abortion/breast cancer link. I remember they came out, and all they said was "Nope, no link, sorry." That was pretty much it. No study, no figures, no statistics, just an assertion. It was amazing, and yet, that study will be treated as gospel by the left and the media. I am glad that the younger generation is realizing that abortion is not the liberation of women, but more the exploitation of them. Why does the media love to go after big business corruption, and yet it leaves the abortion industry alone? Isn't that amazing?
5 posted on 05/06/2003 11:48:06 PM PDT by GeorgeWBiscuit
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Hold muh Beer alert?

I suspect that the slightly higher Marin County breast cancer rates are associated with high stress. The women who have more trouble with stress may tend to drink more alcohol and get more breast cancer -- even though the alcohol has nothing to do with causing breast cancer.

Marin can be a very stressful place to live. I get stressed out whenever I see the bill for real estate taxes.

6 posted on 05/07/2003 2:43:10 AM PDT by ravinson
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To: CounterCounterCulture
If I was an ugly, old, but wealthy leftist Marin woman, whose looks were fading quickly, but was accustomed to always being able to buy my way out of anything bad, I too would probably take up drinking heavily. Especially if I saw George Bush get into the White House.
7 posted on 05/07/2003 2:56:20 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; PoisedWoman
Wow. This explains to me why so many lesbians get this disease. Very interesting study.

Glad I don't drink, ever. Not even one drop. Hate the stuff.
8 posted on 05/07/2003 7:32:13 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; nickcarraway
BUMP & ping

And they NEVER mentioned, nor tested (?) nor asked about prior abortions................

Funny. I wonder why the writers didn't want to investigate this relationship.

... I wonder what link there might be between prolonged depression and killing your previous babies.

9 posted on 05/07/2003 7:38:26 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I have every single one of the risk factors. I get mammograms every year.
10 posted on 05/07/2003 7:42:13 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
ping
11 posted on 05/07/2003 8:45:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I wonder what link there might be between prolonged depression and killing your previous babies.

Exactly. I'd bet they didn't ask why these women were drinking so much.

12 posted on 05/07/2003 10:24:31 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Polycarp
Other factors that were associated with higher breast cancer risk by the study included later menopause (yes), not using birth control pills (huh?!! it's the opposite), four or more mammograms from 1990 to 1994 (why was having a yearly mammogram a risk factor during these four years? Women over 40 are encouraged to have yearly mammograms), beginning to drink after the age of 21 (this is incredibly bizarre. This has never, ever been cited as a factor anywhere I have seen), being a heavy smoker (okay), and being raised in organized religion (beyond bizarre).

Either the reporter got his or her facts wrong or some researchers were smoking funny stuff when they did this study. If it stands correct as written this will make it to the trash heap of medical studies in record time.

13 posted on 05/07/2003 10:33:01 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
And they NEVER mentioned, nor tested (?) nor asked about prior abortions................

I thought Baylor University announced study results
showing no link between abortion and breast cancer.
14 posted on 05/07/2003 3:21:07 PM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: gcruse
No, not really.

That what the "Headline" said, but not if you follow the real numbers. The conclusion is different. Not conclusive numbers as I recall, but the trend was was strongly there in the data.

And here, they're pretending that "stress"/"drinking (?) ARE a "proven" breast cancer risk factor ????

Funny.... I wonder what the stress factors/depression factors/religious hypocrisy factors are there for a 'teenage" pregnancy (abortion at a young age is a leading link!) and a "later" conversion" to a religious conviction that "my earlier act was wrong" ...

Just wondering.
15 posted on 05/07/2003 3:38:37 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I support FR monthly; and ABBCNNBCBS (continue to) Lie!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
That's the nice thing about religion. You do what you want, join up, and get forgiven.
16 posted on 05/07/2003 3:43:46 PM PDT by gcruse (Vice is nice, but virtue can hurt you. --Bill Bennett)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
From: The Pro-Life Infonet

Carcinogens and the Abortion-Breast Cancer Link By Karen Malec

[Pro-Life Infonet Note: Karen Malec is the president of the Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer.]

An official list of "known human carcinogens" released by the Department of Health and Human Services in December 2002 includes steroidal estrogens for the first time. The Report on Carcinogens states that steroidal estrogens are used in estrogen replacement therapy (ERT) and common abortifacient drugs. Both kinds of drugs have been widely utilized by American women. The federal report is available on the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences website. [1]

While certain pharmaceuticals might provide limited medical benefits, women must balance these considerations against the fact that breast cancer is the second greatest cause of cancer among American women. Clearly, the Report on Carcinogens presents a serious conflict for the National Cancer Institute (NCI), an agency of the Department of Health and Human Services. In February, a panel of grant-dependent scientists chosen by the NCI swept under the rug staggering biological and epidemiological evidence supporting a causal relationship between abortion and breast cancer which has been amassed over the last 46 years.

What do ERT and abortifacient drugs have to do with the abortion-breast cancer (ABC) link? Estrogen overexposure provides the biological explanation for most of the risk factors for breast cancer, including abortion. Estrogen is known to increase the rate of cell division. It causes normal and pre-cancerous cells to multiply. A few days after conception, estrogen levels start climbing, so that by the end of the first trimester, a mothers estrogen level is increased 2000% and her breasts are swollen. Scientists theorize that only a third trimester process, differentiation (maturation of cells), neutralizes the mothers exposure to estrogen and provides her with increased protection against breast cancer.

A booklet published by the Breast Cancer Prevention Institute, "Breast Cancer Risks and Prevention", explains the critical importance of an early first full term pregnancy (before age 25). This influences breast cell maturity and, consequently, a womans lifetime risk for the disease. The booklet says:

"If a woman does not have a full-term pregnancy (meaning she is childless or nulliparous), she has increased risk for breast cancer, since she never develops (mature, cancer-resistant) type 3 and 4 lobules. If she has children later in life (after age 30), she has increased risk, because, for most of her menstrual life, her estrogen has been stimulating immature (cancer-vulnerable) type 1 and 2 breast lobules. If she has children as a teenager, she has decreased risk of breast cancer, since her breast tissue matures very early in her menstrual life to type 3 and 4 lobules." [2]

Similarly, women who experience more menstrual periods during their lives are at greater risk. Why? With each monthly period, theyre exposed to more estrogen. This is why the risk is greater for women who have fewer or no children, who breastfeed little or not at all, who experience late menopause or early onset of menstrual periods and who delay their first full term pregnancies.

On the other hand, alcohol consumption, lack of exercise and obesity each increase breast cancer risk because they cause a womans estrogen levels to be elevated.

Use of diethylstilbestrol (DES) has been linked with increased risk. It is a synthetic estrogen given to diabetic pregnant women at risk for miscarriage starting in the 1940s. For almost 25 years, researchers told women there was no link between DES and breast cancer. However, because the disease develops slowly over time, it took 20 years before researchers were able to detect a trend in the direction of increased risk.

Chris Kahlenborn, M.D. wrote in his book, Breast Cancer: Its Link to Abortion and the Birth Control Pill, that "The risk of DES appears to be greatest in women older than 60." [3]

A similar trend can be observed among women of the Roe v. Wade generation. A Report to the Nation on the Status of Cancer for the period 1973 to 1998 from the National Cancer Institute and other agencies reveals that an increasing incidence of breast cancer could be observed starting in 1987 14 years after the legalization of abortion. [4] A graph provided by the reports authors, figure 3, clearly shows that the more than 40% increase in breast cancer rates since 1987 was sustained solely by the youngest of three generations the Roe v. Wade generation.

Just as the risk of breast cancer increases as DES users age, the incidence of the disease is just as likely to rise as the Roe generation ages.

What's the bottom line? Women have become scientists human guinea pigs. The National Cancer Institute and private cancer organizations are to blame for the nations out-of-control breast cancer rates. If they really wanted women to know the truth about the ABC link, they would have informed women of the existence of the ongoing research in 1973 when abortion was legalized.

This is why the NCIs leaders were afraid to debate the evidence during its workshop earlier this year. They knew they would lose.

References 1. See http://www.niehs.nih.gov/oc/news/10thrc.htm (December 11, 2002) Visited May 20, 2003. 2. Lanfranchi A, Brind J. Breast Cancer Risks and Prevention. Breast Cancer Prevention Institute (2002) P. 8. 3. Kahlenborn C. Breast Cancer: Its Link to Abortion and the Birth Control Pill. One More Soul. New York, New York. (2000) P. 183. 4. Howe HL, Wingo PA, Thun MJ, Ries LA, Rosenberg HM, Feigal EG, Edwards BK. Annual report to the nation on the status of cancer, 1973 through 1998, featuring cancers with recent increasing trends. J Natl Cancer Inst 2001;93:824-842.

17 posted on 05/21/2003 9:25:52 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Free Miguel)
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To: ravinson
Like having an abortion isn't stressful. Sheeeesh.
18 posted on 05/21/2003 9:26:45 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Free Miguel)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Thanks for posting this, pal. I've been a little out of it lately - and missed this when you posted it. Thanks again. For life!!!
19 posted on 05/21/2003 9:27:46 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Free Miguel)
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